FOX - Botched trade will put pressure on Redskins

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

I didn't see one sentence in the article that stretched the truth or was even that negative towards Snyder. I think it is spot on.

I am more worried about someone who reads an unbiased account of a potentially disasterous trade and criticizes the author.

This team has not won a single division under Snyder's impatient watch and he proved this offseason that he learned nothing while Gibbs was here.

Thank God that we didn't make that trade. It is the best thing that happened to us in the offseason.

Actually, he owned the team in 1999 when they won the division. Then, he destroyed the team by getting a million over priced free agents, but still, they won the division in his first year as owner.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by jdlea

Actually, he owned the team in 1999 when they won the division. Then, he destroyed the team by getting a million over priced free agents, but still, they won the division in his first year as owner.

I know he owned the team in 1999 but he had zero input on that roster so I give him credit for none of their sucess. What did he do in 2000 when he made his mark on the roster? He ruined it.

[Daseal]

Are you sure about Denver turning down Cassel? That's what started this whole mess was McDaniels going after Cassel.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Daseal

Are you sure about Denver turning down Cassel? That's what started this whole mess was McDaniels going after Cassel.

I think he was saying that Denver turned down Cutler for Cassell, not that they turned Cassell down.

[sportscurmudgeon]

Maybe Jason Campbell gets his "revenge" by having a "lights out" season this year and then signing somewhere else next year because he feels he was dissed by Danny Boy?

There are so many hypothetical twist and turns on that road in the future that speculation now is unbounded.

Unless somehow a QB named "Manning" or "Brees" or "Brady" or "Roethilisberger" pisses off his coach and owner and becomes available, Jason Campbell will have 2009 to demonstrate his worth to the Skins and the rest of the coaches in the NFL - - because he's a free agent at the end of the 2009 season.

BTW, John Czarnecki is not a douche. He is really pretty well wired into "NFL Doings". And he's not such a bad guy either...

[redskins1974]

I'm Very dissapointed we didnt get Cutler.

Campbell is a dissapointment year after year. Shows very little progress. Always in bottom 3rd of league in QB rating. Always a split second too late. He's not a team leader. He's 17-21 as a starter - Skins went to the playoffs one year because T.Collins finished the year 4-0, after idiot Campbell got us to 5-7. Statistics dont lie!

And yet people say keep giving him another year....amazing. Let see, the Detroit lions at 0-16 scored more offensive TD's and more points the Redskins last year. look it up! Redskins finished 4th in total Defense, Portis had a solid year, and we still finished only 8-8. There is only one underlying factor. Our deadbeat QB. I dont want to hear anymore excuses...the O-line, different coaches....BS. he's had enough time!

The broncos thought Orton brought more to the table then Campbell. (and they are probably right!) the redskins tried to trade deadass Campbell for a 2nd Round draft pick. Not one team was interested. Doesnt that tell you something?

I am a diehard Skins fan, but Campbell is not the answer-he cannot lead us to where we want to go. I really thought we had a chance at a franschise QB in Cutler. At least there is only one more year of this nonsense, and then we get rid of this loser. I made the arguement last year at this time, and everyone on this site said 2008 was going to be a breakout year for JC......yeah right.

Hopefully we can trade him still. i cant stand him

[Monkeydad]

I'm very relieved we did not get Cutler. Selfishness (and crybaby-ness) does not make a good leader.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by redskins1974

I'm Very dissapointed we didnt get Cutler.

Campbell is a dissapointment year after year. Shows very little progress. Always in bottom 3rd of league in QB rating. Always a split second too late. He's not a team leader. He's 17-21 as a starter - Skins went to the playoffs one year because T.Collins finished the year 4-0, after idiot Campbell got us to 5-7. Statistics dont lie!

And yet people say keep giving him another year....amazing. Let see, the Detroit lions at 0-16 scored more offensive TD's and more points the Redskins last year. look it up! Redskins finished 4th in total Defense, Portis had a solid year, and we still finished only 8-8. There is only one underlying factor. Our deadbeat QB. I dont want to hear anymore excuses...the O-line, different coaches....BS. he's had enough time!

The broncos thought Orton brought more to the table then Campbell. (and they are probably right!) the redskins tried to trade deadass Campbell for a 2nd Round draft pick. Not one team was interested. Doesnt that tell you something?

I am a diehard Skins fan, but Campbell is not the answer-he cannot lead us to where we want to go. I really thought we had a chance at a franschise QB in Cutler. At least there is only one more year of this nonsense, and then we get rid of this loser. I made the arguement last year at this time, and everyone on this site said 2008 was going to be a breakout year for JC......yeah right.

Hopefully we can trade him still. i cant stand him

So enough about you, tell us how you feel about Jason Campbell.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by redskins1974

I'm Very dissapointed we didnt get Cutler.

Campbell is a dissapointment year after year. Shows very little progress. Always in bottom 3rd of league in QB rating. Always a split second too late. He's not a team leader. He's 17-21 as a starter - Skins went to the playoffs one year because T.Collins finished the year 4-0, after idiot Campbell got us to 5-7. Statistics dont lie!

And yet people say keep giving him another year....amazing. Let see, the Detroit lions at 0-16 scored more offensive TD's and more points the Redskins last year. look it up! Redskins finished 4th in total Defense, Portis had a solid year, and we still finished only 8-8. There is only one underlying factor. Our deadbeat QB. I dont want to hear anymore excuses...the O-line, different coaches....BS. he's had enough time!

The broncos thought Orton brought more to the table then Campbell. (and they are probably right!) the redskins tried to trade deadass Campbell for a 2nd Round draft pick. Not one team was interested. Doesnt that tell you something?

I am a diehard Skins fan, but Campbell is not the answer-he cannot lead us to where we want to go. I really thought we had a chance at a franschise QB in Cutler. At least there is only one more year of this nonsense, and then we get rid of this loser. I made the arguement last year at this time, and everyone on this site said 2008 was going to be a breakout year for JC......yeah right.

Hopefully we can trade him still. i cant stand him

So what name were you using last year?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

So what name were you using last year?

Ha. I was thinking the same thing

(they always return to the scene of the crime)

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by redskins1974

I'm Very dissapointed we didnt get Cutler.

Campbell is a dissapointment year after year. Shows very little progress. Always in bottom 3rd of league in QB rating. Always a split second too late. He's not a team leader. He's 17-21 as a starter - Skins went to the playoffs one year because T.Collins finished the year 4-0, after idiot Campbell got us to 5-7. Statistics dont lie!

That true about bottom 3rd of the league? (please note I'm not asking you this question, I'm asking the rest of the board). As for not being a team leader and his record. Cutler 17-20. No playoffs. So you need to use a better argument there

And yet people say keep giving him another year....amazing. Let see, the Detroit lions at 0-16 scored more offensive TD's and more points the Redskins last year. look it up! Redskins finished 4th in total Defense, Portis had a solid year, and we still finished only 8-8. There is only one underlying factor. Our deadbeat QB. I dont want to hear anymore excuses...the O-line, different coaches....BS. he's had enough time!

Are you Colt Brennan's agent

The broncos thought Orton brought more to the table then Campbell. (and they are probably right!) the redskins tried to trade deadass Campbell for a 2nd Round draft pick. Not one team was interested. Doesnt that tell you something?

Are you Jason Campbell's jilted ex-lover?

I am a diehard Skins fan, but Campbell is not the answer-he cannot lead us to where we want to go. I really thought we had a chance at a franschise QB in Cutler. At least there is only one more year of this nonsense, and then we get rid of this loser. I made the arguement last year at this time, and everyone on this site said 2008 was going to be a breakout year for JC......yeah right.

Hopefully we can trade him still. i cant stand him

You're just a sad, sad individual aren't you?

[celts32]

Originally Posted by redskins1974

I'm Very dissapointed we didnt get Cutler.

Campbell is a dissapointment year after year. Shows very little progress. Always in bottom 3rd of league in QB rating. Always a split second too late. He's not a team leader. He's 17-21 as a starter - Skins went to the playoffs one year because T.Collins finished the year 4-0, after idiot Campbell got us to 5-7. Statistics dont lie!

And yet people say keep giving him another year....amazing. Let see, the Detroit lions at 0-16 scored more offensive TD's and more points the Redskins last year. look it up! Redskins finished 4th in total Defense, Portis had a solid year, and we still finished only 8-8. There is only one underlying factor. Our deadbeat QB. I dont want to hear anymore excuses...the O-line, different coaches....BS. he's had enough time!

The broncos thought Orton brought more to the table then Campbell. (and they are probably right!) the redskins tried to trade deadass Campbell for a 2nd Round draft pick. Not one team was interested. Doesnt that tell you something?

I am a diehard Skins fan, but Campbell is not the answer-he cannot lead us to where we want to go. I really thought we had a chance at a franschise QB in Cutler. At least there is only one more year of this nonsense, and then we get rid of this loser. I made the arguement last year at this time, and everyone on this site said 2008 was going to be a breakout year for JC......yeah right.

Hopefully we can trade him still. i cant stand him

I wanted Cutler more then just about anyone on this board, but it didn't happen. So now I hope that a 2nd year in this offense will bring improvement...and if it doesn't it's pretty clear we will have a new QB next year. I just can't imagine a diehard Redskins fan referring to Campbell as a deadbeat or a loser. It's one thing to think he is not the long term answer at QB...but that can be said without resorting to personal attacks.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by celts32

I wanted Cutler more then just about anyone on this board, but it didn't happen. So now I hope that a 2nd year in this offense will bring improvement...and if it doesn't it's pretty clear we will have a new QB next year. I just can't imagine a diehard Redskins fan referring to Campbell as a deadbeat or a loser. It's one thing to think he is not the long term answer at QB...but that can be said without resorting to personal attacks.

And I was 2nd on the board! But we got Campbell still and I am GLAD we do because he is a GOOD qb I never hated JC like some of these guys do (Redskins1974). My only problem with JC is that he doesn't fit our WC system, He was Avg. at best last year and I know we as a team have to do better in '09 or or Zorn and Campbell may both be gone, much less Campbell. Lets just wait and see guys Campbell may bust out in '09 simply because it's a Big Contract year if he does.

[redskins1974]

mel kiper said the skins are seriously looking at sanchez....hmm.. i wonder why

[redskins1974]

JC's QB rating his first 2 years were in the 70's and last year a minimimal improvement into the low 80's.

Cutler's record as a starter is 17-20, correct. and how about that great Broncos Defense? What do you think the Redskins record would have been if the Redskins were not 5th in D, but 30th like Denver? probably 5-11 at best.