Redskins Pre-Draft Visits and Private Workouts: 2009 Version

[Son Of Man]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

My list would look something like

1) Raji
2) Crabtree
3) Oher
4) Monroe
5) Mack
6) Orakpo
7) A. Smith
8) T. Jackson
9) M. Jenkins
10) Matthews
11) E. Brown
12) Ayers
13) Maualuga
14) Peria Jerry
15) Laurinaitis/Sintim

I went to 15 understanding that Mack probably isn't an option at 13. But I'd definately say that if the first four guys are gone, I'd take him if I was in charge.

1) There is no way the FO ties up that much $ at DT with no DE's
2) Vinny is not Millen, we will not be pickung WR high...again
3) How is Oher over Monroe? I've read that the guy isn't that bright.
4) Not falling past Cincy
5) Not worth 13th overall
6) Not falling out of top 10
7) Not bad, but man he made some dumb ass decisions
8) Second coming of Renaldo Wynn...underwhelming, but solid
9) 4.5 in the 40...did I mention we have Hall and Los?
10) Not falling
11) I'd be pissed!!!! BUST.
12) Intriguing...but not worth 13th overall..one year wonder (I said it Mayock)
13) Haven't been this excited about a prospect since 2004 draft...I miss him
14) Reference comment #1
15) late first round value (plus I hate OSU..go State)/2nd round value

Dude, imagine if we only drafted for need in 2007 and went after a DT like Okoye instead of Landry (who we didn't desperately need at the time). We have to look past this year and focus on building a winning franchise and Rey looks like the next Ray!!!

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Son Of Man

Dude, imagine if we only drafted for need in 2007 and went after a DT like Okoye instead of Landry (who we didn't desperately need at the time). We have to look past this year and focus on building a winning franchise and Rey looks like the next Ray!!!

Wouldn't we probably be better off if this happened?

I mean, Okoye had a down year as a second year player after a promising rookie season, but Landry did as well. NFL teams really exposed all of Landry's weaknesses this year. Now he has to either adapt, or get out. Both of them do.

Okoye is still the better prospect.

[Son Of Man]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Wouldn't we probably be better off if this happened?

I mean, Okoye had a down year as a second year player after a promising rookie season, but Landry did as well. NFL teams really exposed all of Landry's weaknesses this year. Now he has to either adapt, or get out. Both of them do.

Okoye is still the better prospect.

Landry was asked to play 30 yards off the ball which is why his stats were down! When did he get exposed? What game? What player? He's a safety that runs 4.38 and hits like a freight train. Dude, your lunchin.
BTW- Okoye plays alongside Mario Williams so he only gets one-on-one match ups. Are you seriously calloing him a better prospect? Yeah we'd be better off with him and have who at FS?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Son Of Man

Landry was asked to play 30 yards off the ball which is why his stats were down! When did he get exposed? What game? What player? He's a safety that runs 4.38 and hits like a freight train. Dude, your lunchin.
BTW- Okoye plays alongside Mario Williams so he only gets one-on-one match ups. Are you seriously calloing him a better prospect? Yeah we'd be better off with him and have who at FS?

Uh, we'd have whoever we drafted last year to replace ST at safety.

And for a guy who plays 30 yards off the ball, we probably shouldn't have given up long pass plays to Larry Fitzgerald and Nate Washington (just to name two). Then there was the cover three TD play against the Saints, where Drew Brees manipulated him with his eyes way, way too easily, getting a 25 yard inside seam basically uncovered.

It is safe to agree with you that he's probably ill suited for a role that was created with Taylor in mind, even if he did play it very well at the end of 2007.

[Son Of Man]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Uh, we'd have whoever we drafted last year to replace ST at safety.

And for a guy who plays 30 yards off the ball, we probably shouldn't have given up long pass plays to Larry Fitzgerald and Nate Washington (just to name two). Then there was the cover three TD play against the Saints, where Drew Brees manipulated him with his eyes way, way too easily, getting a 25 yard inside seam basically uncovered.

It is safe to agree with you that he's probably ill suited for a role that was created with Taylor in mind, even if he did play it very well at the end of 2007.

You just named two of the best at their position (who happen to school everybody) and the defending Super Bowl champions. For a 2nd year player, playing out of position, I think all you've done is further prove my point.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Son Of Man

You just named two of the best at their position (who happen to school everybody) and the defending Super Bowl champions. For a 2nd year player, playing out of position, I think all you've done is further prove my point.

I don't have any idea what point you're trying to make, so I guess that's possible.

I think your point is something like: having Landry is better than having Okoye and Kenny Phillips (as an example of someone we might have drafted instead). I pointed out that Landry had a down year last year (something that Okoye also had). You can't dispute that, all you said was that Landry runs really fast and hits like a truck. Great, but, I don't care.

He's got issues with play diagnosis and tackling. He makes a lot of mistakes still. He's a second year player, and he's going to get better for sure. But I still think Okoye, who is only going to be 22 this year, is a much better prospect.

I don't know what that's confusing you so much. Perhaps I was unclear.

[Son Of Man]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I don't have any idea what point you're trying to make, so I guess that's possible.

I think your point is something like: having Landry is better than having Okoye and Kenny Phillips (as an example of someone we might have drafted instead). I pointed out that Landry had a down year last year (something that Okoye also had). You can't dispute that, all you said was that Landry runs really fast and hits like a truck. Great, but, I don't care.

He's got issues with play diagnosis and tackling. He makes a lot of mistakes still. He's a second year player, and he's going to get better for sure. But I still think Okoye, who is only going to be 22 this year, is a much better prospect.

I don't know what that's confusing you so much. Perhaps I was unclear.

Sounds eerily similar to the analysis of a safety we drafted in 2004 early on in his career.

It's all good. We're just two B&G fans who love the team, debating a past draft. That being said....DRAFT MAUALUGA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!