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Old 04-13-2009, 08:24 AM   #1
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Re: Jason Peters on the trade block...

That search thing sure can be a pain.
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Old 04-13-2009, 04:03 PM   #2
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That search thing sure can be a pain.
ahh, I didn't remember that topic from then

side note not relating to this particular topic -- why do so many people complain about new threads on something that may have gotten a mention in a 30 page topic that's vague?

I personally like not having all topics clusterscrewed together, makes it easier to follow a single subject and might possibly keep the Campbell should/should not be our QB out of certain topics haha

20some page threads with 11ty players being discussed = mess and doesn't present itself well

kinda the reason newspapers have headlines instead of one huge long paragraph with nothing emphasized

are we encouraged to seek any discussions of it even if it's not clear in the title or is it okay to start a new thread?
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ahh, I didn't remember that topic from then

side note not relating to this particular topic -- why do so many people complain about new threads on something that may have gotten a mention in a 30 page topic that's vague?

I personally like not having all topics clusterscrewed together, makes it easier to follow a single subject and might possibly keep the Campbell should/should not be our QB out of certain topics haha

20some page threads with 11ty players being discussed = mess and doesn't present itself well

kinda the reason newspapers have headlines instead of one huge long paragraph with nothing emphasized

are we encouraged to seek any discussions of it even if it's not clear in the title or is it okay to start a new thread?
Inevitably topics will be mentioned (to various degrees) in multiple threads. Everything is intertwined ultimately. Still, we try to discourage and control (as best possible) multiple threads on the exact same topic.

One thread on Ways to Improve our OL, another on Andre Smith, and another on Jason Peters that's fine and information will probably overlap there

Two threads on Jason Peters (and when I say "on" I mean the inital intent of the thread) seems a bit unneccessary. Especially when not much new information has happened.

But all that, to me, is secondary that once again Daseal has complained about how the site is run (does anyone else remember when he was "done with this site"?), yet apparently can't or won't just do a simple search.
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Old 04-13-2009, 04:51 PM   #4
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Inevitably topics will be mentioned (to various degrees) in multiple threads. Everything is intertwined ultimately. Still, we try to discourage and control (as best possible) multiple threads on the exact same topic.

One thread on Ways to Improve our OL, another on Andre Smith, and another on Jason Peters that's fine and information will probably overlap there

Two threads on Jason Peters (and when I say "on" I mean the inital intent of the thread) seems a bit unneccessary. Especially when not much new information has happened.

But all that, to me, is secondary that once again Daseal has complained about how the site is run (does anyone else remember when he was "done with this site"?), yet apparently can't or won't just do a simple search.
Got it. I see where you're coming from, granted that thread had been dead for nearly a month, but searching isn't hard.
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Re: Jason Peters on the trade block...

Jason Peters sux, rather have a young OL with the 13th pick
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Old 04-13-2009, 09:54 AM   #6
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Re: Jason Peters on the trade block...

Correct me if I'm wrong; OT's are one of the safest picks, it is fairly unusual for a highly regarded tackle to be a total bust. Tony Mandarich is one of the only exceptions I can think of. People have been hard on Robert Gallery, but the fact is he's Oakland's starting RT & probably will be for some time.

Also, rookie OTs can start immediately if they're good. We can get a better player at better cost at #13.
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Correct me if I'm wrong; OT's are one of the safest picks, it is fairly unusual for a highly regarded tackle to be a total bust. Tony Mandarich is one of the only exceptions I can think of. People have been hard on Robert Gallery, but the fact is he's Oakland's starting RT & probably will be for some time.

Also, rookie OTs can start immediately if they're good. We can get a better player at better cost at #13.
Exactly. Even if we accept the "Jason Peters is great" argument, the cost is a key point. You are going to pay him elite LT money then go and play him at RT (and even if you say you'll just move Samuels to RT then you are still paying #60 elite LT money). Get a young guy in, pay him 5/15 and let him roll. Trading high picks for players does not work. It is a losing strategy. The Redskins have proven that.
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Re: Jason Peters on the trade block...

Pass. Draft a guy and allow the coaching staff to develop the guy.
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Old 04-13-2009, 01:54 PM   #9
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Re: Jason Peters on the trade block...

Many people have already said this, but it just doesn't make sense to trade a 1st and 3rd for a 27 yr old wanting big LT money knowing he would play RT doesn't makes sense, but we all know the Redskins are known to make moves that backfire in their face.
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Re: Jason Peters on the trade block...

As tryfuhl said -- dead for over a month. I don't like digging up old threads on the same player when new information has come available. NFLNick was dead on with what Buffalo was going to do (except he expected them to want a bit less in compensation, but I think they will drop that down some.)

Perhaps I should have done a search and posted at the end of that because it's not different enough. I know I'm not in the boat alone with being sick of topic titles being changed and having to go to page 30-35 to find the results. Over moderating is certainly a problem on that board, in my opinion. And I feel you do a majority of it Smootsmack.

This thread is on me -- yet I stand by my original statement. As far as being done with the site, I rarely read or contribute to the Locker Room section anymore. I'll scan topics, then head to the off-topic forum to see if anything's new.
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Old 04-13-2009, 06:06 PM   #11
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As tryfuhl said -- dead for over a month. I don't like digging up old threads on the same player when new information has come available. NFLNick was dead on with what Buffalo was going to do (except he expected them to want a bit less in compensation, but I think they will drop that down some.)

Perhaps I should have done a search and posted at the end of that because it's not different enough. I know I'm not in the boat alone with being sick of topic titles being changed and having to go to page 30-35 to find the results. Over moderating is certainly a problem on that board, in my opinion. And I feel you do a majority of it Smootsmack.

This thread is on me -- yet I stand by my original statement. As far as being done with the site, I rarely read or contribute to the Locker Room section anymore. I'll scan topics, then head to the off-topic forum to see if anything's new.
Just trying to make the site easier for people like you to find your way around. So the thread was over a month old, so what? That's no excuse for not using the search function. But fine, you don't want to use it and start a new thread. Ok, I get that. I'm sure I've started new threads on old topics myself. But don't go complaining about the site because you don't want to use a simple function that's here to help everybody.
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Re: Jason Peters on the trade block...

TAFKAS, I think you missed my point. I admitted I screwed up on this particular thread. I should have used the month-ish old Peters thread. It was certainly similar enough to update it with mine, and feel free to merge it. As I said, this thread was on me.

The main point is by keeping so much information, typically on a broad spectrum, in one place -- makes it much more difficult to find information. For instance, we talk about Cutler to the skins for however long that lasted. Then the articles/etc around page 30 are posted there... somewhere. Once something like that happens, I consider it time for a new thread. That's what I'm talking about.

So we're clear -- I certainly screwed up on this thread, and I'll use the search this time. Speaking of search, any chance of getting the timer reduced or is it too much of a strain on the site? Regardless, this conversation isn't for this part of the forums and I'll start a thread with in the suggestion forum soon explaining exactly what I mean.
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Old 04-13-2009, 06:25 PM   #13
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TAFKAS, I think you missed my point. I admitted I screwed up on this particular thread. I should have used the month-ish old Peters thread. It was certainly similar enough to update it with mine, and feel free to merge it. As I said, this thread was on me.
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The main point is by keeping so much information, typically on a broad spectrum, in one place -- makes it much more difficult to find information. For instance, we talk about Cutler to the skins for however long that lasted. Then the articles/etc around page 30 are posted there... somewhere. Once something like that happens, I consider it time for a new thread. That's what I'm talking about.
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So we're clear -- I certainly screwed up on this thread, and I'll use the search this time. Speaking of search, any chance of getting the timer reduced or is it too much of a strain on the site? Regardless, this conversation isn't for this part of the forums and I'll start a thread with in the suggestion forum soon explaining exactly what I mean.
No idea what you're talking about with the timer
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No idea what you're talking about with the timer
The site only allows one search every 30 seconds.
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The site only allows one search every 30 seconds.
Oh. Wasn't aware of that
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