Mark Sanchez at 13th?

[theJBexperience]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think we're going running back in the 3rd round, just a gut feeling

I take it you'd like Javon Ringer in the third? I wouldn't mind drafting a guy like Jeremiah Johnson or Devin Moore with our fifth round pick.

[Dirtbag59]

To be honest I'm not totally opposed to taking Sanchez, but to take a DB or RB in the 3rd round as well would just be overkill. At the very least if they had signed Ray Willis none of this would have been a problem. Right now though their best option if they choose not to draft a Tackle is to sign Kwame Harris and hope like hell that he can be developed.

Originally Posted by freddyg12

dude, you're on a roll! The creative juices are flowing, love the Haynesworth/fat guy lines!

Thanks, I try.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

To be honest I'm not totally opposed to taking Sanchez, but to take a DB or RB in the 3rd round as well would just be overkill. At the very least if they had signed Ray Willis none of this would have been a problem. Right now though their best option if they choose not to draft a Tackle is to sign Kwame Harris and hope like hell that he can be developed.

Disagree. I think we'll go RB at some point in this draft. We need a change of pace for Portis. We've got to give him 5 or so less carries per game this year for durability purposes, and Betts just isn't a good replacement at this point. Kory Sheets or Javon Ringer. Both would very solid additions. If only we had that 2nd and/or 4th rounder.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Disagree. I think we'll go RB at some point in this draft. We need a change of pace for Portis. We've got to give him 5 or so less carries per game this year for durability purposes, and Betts just isn't a good replacement at this point. Kory Sheets or Javon Ringer. Both would very solid additions. If only we had that 2nd and/or 4th rounder.

Funny you should mention it. The RB position coach earlier in the offseason mentioned he would like a change of pace back. Like a Scat back. We did pick up two in the offseason already though.

I would be all for keeping one of the new RB's as a change of pace. Keep the other on practice squad. Then go after a big bruising RB to spell Portis once and a while. Then get rid of both Rock and Betts...perhaps in trades.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Funny you should mention it. The RB position coach earlier in the offseason mentioned he would like a change of pace back. Like a Scat back. We did pick up two in the offseason already though.

I would be all for keeping one of the new RB's as a change of pace. Keep the other on practice squad. Then go after a big bruising RB to spell Portis once and a while. Then get rid of both Rock and Betts...perhaps in trades.

Like it or not, Portis IS our bruising RB. He's the guy we pound between the tackles. Hell, he's the guy we pound every down period. You mentioned that Stump Mitchell said we need a scat back. I agree with him. As much as I'd love to see Dominick Dorsey and/or Anthony Aldridge to pan out, I'm just not sure.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Disagree. I think we'll go RB at some point in this draft. We need a change of pace for Portis. We've got to give him 5 or so less carries per game this year for durability purposes, and Betts just isn't a good replacement at this point. Kory Sheets or Javon Ringer. Both would very solid additions. If only we had that 2nd and/or 4th rounder.

That seems to be a recurring theme lately -- many have lost faith in Ladell Betts. The real problem is that Betts never got enough carries in '08 to justify this feeling.

There really isn't any point in drafting another RB if he's only going to get 60 or 70 attempts all season while Portis gets over 300.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

That seems to be a recurring theme lately -- many have lost faith in Ladell Betts. The real problem is that Betts never got enough carries in '08 to justify this feeling.

There really isn't any point in drafting another RB if he's only going to get 60 or 70 attempts all season while Portis gets over 300.

If we get a good enough change of pace back Portis would noth have to take 300 a season and about 35-45 of those carries can go to the other guy.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

That seems to be a recurring theme lately -- many have lost faith in Ladell Betts. The real problem is that Betts never got enough carries in '08 to justify this feeling.

There really isn't any point in drafting another RB if he's only going to get 60 or 70 attempts all season while Portis gets over 300.

Well, now we have to ask, why didn't Betts get more carries? Playing for three different Redskin HCs, and in four different offenses, Betts only once in his career touched 100 carries.

So is Portis overworked because the coaches want him to be overworked, and we're wasting Betts' talents? Or is Betts only getting 4-5 carries per game because we play a lot of close games and Betts represents a significant downgrade from Portis that needs to be corrected?

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Well, now we have to ask, why didn't Betts get more carries? Playing for three different Redskin HCs, and in four different offenses, Betts only once in his career touched 100 carries.

So is Portis overworked because the coaches want him to be overworked, and we're wasting Betts' talents? Or is Betts only getting 4-5 carries per game because we play a lot of close games and Betts represents a significant downgrade from Portis that needs to be corrected?

I think the coaches know that Betts doesn't really add much to the offense when he is in there. He can do 2 things, run straight ahead and catch swing passes. He's not a threat on the stretch plays, he can't block anyone and isn't much of a threat to catch the ball anywhere else other than the flats.

He played himself into a nice contract a couple of years ago when Portis was hurt and good for him, but he's just a guy-nothing special.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

That seems to be a recurring theme lately -- many have lost faith in Ladell Betts. The real problem is that Betts never got enough carries in '08 to justify this feeling.

There really isn't any point in drafting another RB if he's only going to get 60 or 70 attempts all season while Portis gets over 300.

Portis really starts to break down when he approaches 300 carries. Stump Mitchell has expressed desire for a change of pace back. There isn't a point drafting a RB if we aren't gonna give him carries, but hopefully Portis' history of being run-down late season combined with Mithcell lobbying for a "scat back" will make a difference.

Betts isn't terrible, but he's not nearly as good as Portis and doesn't bring anything new to the table. He a worse blocker, a worse receiver, and he fumbles more.