Mark Sanchez at 13th?

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Many people are like this, I don't understand why such hatred for Campbell. I guess these people didn't see wideouts dropping good passes or our old offensive linemen getting bulldozed during the second half of the season. I wish people would write long threads on why we should draft a stud o-lineman instead of all of this anti-Campbell stuff. It reminds me when Reed Doughty became Redskins enemy #1 and people stopped talking about him when he got hurt.

Its not "hate" of Campbell. He has his own sets of strenghts and weaknesses, just like any other QB. The problem is he doesnt get to use his natural strenghts in the WCO and his weaknesses are magnified 100 times. Bringing on Zorn and his WCO and expecting it to work with Campbell was a horrible decision on the FOs part... which brings me to the issue here"

Alot of you seem to look at this issue from the perspective of what SHOULD be done or makes sense to you - but it completely ignores the reality that our owner is Daniel Snyder and our GM is vinny Cerrato. Im looking at the issue of what we should do given the fact that our owner is DS and GM is VC.

About WRs... yes, his WRs dropped some balls, but i cant even count the number of times Campbell grossly over or under threw a wide open receiver for a short catch. Many times, our receivers and TEs cant get YAC because Campbell cant hit them in stride. While Campbell has deadly accuracy on his deep ball, hes horribly erratic on the short and medium-throws.

Anyway, as you said, if we keep Campbell as our QB in 2009, we absolutely need to give him O-line help. Campbell holds on to the ball way to long for this system and he absolutely needs more time. He won't be successful without a top5 O-line. If we don't give him serious O-line help, were ensuring his failure. (on the flip side, if we select a QB who makes quicker decisions and is more accurate on the short throws, allowing our receivers more completions and YAC, we're fine with the line we have and can focus on upgrading it coming seasons.)

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Alot of you seem to look at this issue from the perspective of what SHOULD be done or makes sense to you - but it completely ignores the reality that our owner is Daniel Snyder and our GM is vinny Cerrato. Im looking at the issue of what we should do given the fact that our owner is DS and GM is VC.

What is best for the team is what SHOULD be done, regardless of who the onwer and GM are. I think the more appropriate phrase would be; Will DS & VC do what should be done in the best interest of the Redskins.

About WRs... yes, his WRs dropped some balls, but i cant even count the number of times Campbell grossly over or under threw a wide open receiver for a short catch. Many times, our receivers and TEs cant get YAC because Campbell cant hit them in stride. While Campbell has deadly accuracy on his deep ball, hes horribly erratic on the short and medium-throws.

Your statement is completely wrong. You can't count the number of times JC over or under-threw wide open receivers on a mid-short throw, because there just weren't many. If JC is inaccurate anywhere it's his deep ball, those he misses on more than his short/mid-range throws.

.....Campbell holds on to the ball way to long for this system and he absolutely needs more time....(on the flip side, if we select a QB who makes quicker decisions and is more accurate on the short throws, allowing our receivers more completions and YAC, we're fine with the line we have and can focus on upgrading it coming seasons.)

Haven't we heard this before? You put a rookie QB who had one successful season behing our current O-line (even with a healthy Thomas) and we will struggle far worse than JC did in the second half of 2008.

Unless you're ready to blow the whole thing up and start from scratch the Sanchez thing is complete stupidity. You bring a rookie QB into the mix and start him, you set the franchise back 2-3 years. IMO we are far from a position where the whole team needs to be blown up and rebuilt.

Let's say for the sake of argument we draft Sanchez at # 13. We still have immediate needs at OT, LDE & OLB which we will probably not fill, if lucky we'll fill one with our 3rd rounder. Portis isn't getting any younger, Samuels, Thomas and Rabach will all be the wrong side of 33 by Sept. 2010, and Samuels & Thomas are having injuries. Fletch isn't getting any younger, What do we do with Rogers in a contract year next year? Moss isn't getting any younger either, and his main weapon is his speed. What if one of the two young WRs doesn't develop? Now going into the 2010 season we have holes at OTx2, OLBx2, LDE, C, WR, possbily RB, possibly CB. Now we'll likely have a BAD OL and a 2nd year QB, not a good mix. But at least we'll have high draft picks because if we replace JC with Sanchez we're looking at no better than 6-10.

How about we address our OT, LDE, OLB situation this year with a trade down and fill two of those holes. Let's see if JC continues his development along the lines of what Hasslebeck did in the second year with Zorn (Pro Bowl level). He does and we re-sign him, he doesn't then we look for help next off-season.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Its not "hate" of Campbell. He has his own sets of strenghts and weaknesses, just like any other QB. The problem is he doesnt get to use his natural strenghts in the WCO and his weaknesses are magnified 100 times. Bringing on Zorn and his WCO and expecting it to work with Campbell was a horrible decision on the FOs part... which brings me to the issue here"

Hey, I'm totally okay with you saying we shouldn't extend Jason Campbell's contract just yet. There is nothing wrong with a wait and see approach here.

But your assessment of Campbell's weaknesses center around him being "slow." If you want to see slow, you have to watch guys like McNabb, Roethlisberger, JaMarcus Russell, or someone really young like Joe Flacco.

The truth is that Jason Campbell isn't slower than you would expect a player at his age and experience level to be. There is zero reason to believe he can't improve his WCO mechanics from year to year.

See, this is the kind of thing that you NEED the opinion of the experts on. No one cares whether Trent Dilfer thinks Mark Sanchez is going to be great. But an untrained eye can't tell if a QB is going through his progressions at the right speed. I don't see any overt problem here, so until someone comes out and suggests that it's just not happening fast enough, your position on this one continues to be in the "crackpot evidence" category.