Mark Sanchez at 13th?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

BHA, do you think Sanchez will be "Franchise" great, or great because he is the best in this draft?
Another way to phrase it, If Sanchez had taken Carrol's supposed advice and stayed in till next year, would you be advocating wait for him next year, or get the next best one after Stafford?
I think you want a Superstar qb so bad, and you know in your heart JC isn't it, that you are willing to take just about any qb out there and proclaim him the next "Franchise".

My answers to my questions:
Sanchez is not a sure hit franchise player.
If he came out next year he might be the 4th best behind Tebow and others.

Further, he knows that, and knows that this year he can get top 10 money and like a smart business man, he is catching the cash now.

Let's not get carried away. He may or may not be behind Bradford and McCoy but no way is he behind Tebow.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Let's not get carried away. He may or may not be behind Bradford and McCoy but no way is he behind Tebow.

really? Bradford and Tebow both have Heisman's, Tebow had 2 successive very good/outstanding years. Sanchez did what? Led a team that is perennially a powerhouse. I swear my mind is stuck on one argument. USC built the team, then plugged Sanchez in. Exactly what I want the Redskins to do.

[wilsowilso]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

really? Bradford and Tebow both have Heisman's, Tebow had 2 successive very good/outstanding years. Sanchez did what? Led a team that is perennially a powerhouse. I swear my mind is stuck on one argument. USC built the team, then plugged Sanchez in. Exactly what I want the Redskins to do.

Winning the Heisman trophy has little to no value as an indicator for NFL success as a quarterback.

There have been Heisman trophy winning quarterbacks that went undrafted.

I doubt there is a single GM in the NFL that takes Tebow over Sanchez if Tebow had declared for this draft.

I don't want Sanchez by the way, but he has what the NFL is looking for with regards to him deserving to be a top ten pick.

[Son Of Man]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

really? Bradford and Tebow both have Heisman's, Tebow had 2 successive very good/outstanding years. Sanchez did what? Led a team that is perennially a powerhouse. I swear my mind is stuck on one argument. USC built the team, then plugged Sanchez in. Exactly what I want the Redskins to do.

Is that why Tebow was projected as a 4th round pick...at H-Back?

Eric Crouch won a Heisman.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Son Of Man

Is that why Tebow was projected as a 4th round pick...at H-Back?

Eric Crouch won a Heisman.

As a huge Gator fan, I've been biting my tounge on the Tebow comments. But don't even think of comparing him to Eric Crouch. Tebow has better numbers, a better arm, and all of his intangibles are off the charts. He's 6-3, 240, and very mobile. Not to mention he can make every throw, and if you watched him in the SEC Championship game or the title game, dude can thread the needle when he needs to. After this coming season, he will leave UF as one of, if not the most accomplished college QUARTERBACK of all time. He'll be a pro QB, and I have a feeling he'll be a good one.

I guarantee you he is a first round pick in 2010. As a QB. As GTripp said, there's no way every team passes on him.

Jon Gruden knows a thing or two about QBs. Here's his take on Super T during an interview:

Q: Most people are dismissing Tebow as a quarterback in the NFL.

Gruden: "Tim Tebow is so interesting to me. He’s like Brandon Jacobs playing quarterback. He’s 250 pounds. He’s the strongest human being who’s ever played the position. Ever. He will kick the living [expletive] out of a defensive lineman. He’ll fight anybody. He is rare. Tebow is the kind of guy who could revolutionize the game. He’s the ‘wildcat’ who can throw. Most of the teams that have the wildcat back there, it’s Ronnie Brown, it’s Jerious Norwood, it’s whoever you want to say it is. This guy here is 250 pounds of concrete cyanide, man. And he can throw. He throws well enough at any level to play quarterback.”

“He can and will play quarterback in the NFL. When he was a high school senior, they played Armwood in the state championship game. I have tape. He has an 80-yard touchdown run that put them in the lead. When it flipped around, and Armwood had the ball, what position do you think Tebow was playing? He was playing nose guard — and he disrupted about 10 plays. This guy is totally different. He’s got Rich Gannon, Drew Brees, that kind of makeup as a team guy. What he said after the Ole Miss game, I said, ‘That’s my favorite football player I’ve ever seen in my whole life.’ I said, ‘I want Florida to win every game that kid plays from now on.’”

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Son Of Man

Is that why Tebow was projected as a 4th round pick...at H-Back?

Eric Crouch won a Heisman.

I thought I had read the pecking order for this year's draft at the end of the college season, and Sanchez was behind all three. but I could not find it via google. So if i was wrong i is very truly sorry.

I still would say Sanchez would be number 3 at the best and that's not worth any more than this year's number 13. Especially if, as the JC bashing crowd says, we don't improve and end up with the same or worse record. Then we might as well wait till next year and let the newest head coach select the newest franchise quarterback with all the bank books DS can throw at him.

But with this year's draft lets build for this years team.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I thought I had read the pecking order for this year's draft at the end of the college season, and Sanchez was behind all three. but I could not find it via google. So if i was wrong i is very truly sorry.

I still would say Sanchez would be number 3 at the best and that's not worth any more than this year's number 13. Especially if, as the JC bashing crowd says, we don't improve and end up with the same or worse record. Then we might as well wait till next year and let the newest head coach select the newest franchise quarterback with all the bank books DS can throw at him.

But with this year lets build for this years team.

Getting a new coach and new QB and new system next year is a horrible scenario. IMO if we stick with Zorn/Cambpell, thats what Snyder will end up doing. If thats the case, we might as well trade our picks for 2010 picks so the new regime can have something to work with.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Getting a new coach and new QB and new system next year is a horrible scenario. IMO if we stick with Zorn/Cambpell, thats what Snyder will end up doing. If thats the case, we might as well trade our picks for 2010 picks so the new regime can have something to work with.

So do you think bringing in Sanchez would keep Zorn for more then 2 more years?

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

So do you think bringing in Sanchez would keep Zorn for more then 2 more years?

i think its zorns best shot, yes; although nothing is a given with snyder.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

really? Bradford and Tebow both have Heisman's, Tebow had 2 successive very good/outstanding years. Sanchez did what? Led a team that is perennially a powerhouse. I swear my mind is stuck on one argument. USC built the team, then plugged Sanchez in. Exactly what I want the Redskins to do.

Didn't Eric Crotch win the Heisman?? That means nothing. Tebow simply doesn't have the passing/pocket skills to make it as QB in the NFL.