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Old 04-17-2009, 05:01 PM   #1
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Offensive line!!!!!!! Offensive line!!!!!!! Offensive line!!!!!!!!! We do need Boldin for sure, but what we really need is let's say it in unison an OFFENSIVE LINE!!!!!!! Can't give up our top picks anymore. Our two top picks are the ones that will be the only ones to make the team anyway probably.
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Offensive line!!!!!!! Offensive line!!!!!!! Offensive line!!!!!!!!! We do need Boldin for sure, but what we really need is let's say it in unison an OFFENSIVE LINE!!!!!!! Can't give up our top picks anymore. Our two top picks are the ones that will be the only ones to make the team anyway probably.
Have to agree. OL!!
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Offensive line!!!!!!! Offensive line!!!!!!! Offensive line!!!!!!!!! We do need Boldin for sure, but what we really need is let's say it in unison an OFFENSIVE LINE!!!!!!! Can't give up our top picks anymore. Our two top picks are the ones that will be the only ones to make the team anyway probably.
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Old 04-19-2009, 08:11 PM   #4
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I'm not sure who you want us to draft.
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You mean the guy NFLDraftDog has as the 12th best prospect in the draft? You mean this guy? Alex Mack, 2009 NFL Draft Prospect
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You mean the guy NFLDraftDog has as the 12th best prospect in the draft? You mean this guy? Alex Mack, 2009 NFL Draft Prospect
I love this part: I don’t see any contest between Mack and anyone else for the title of best center prospect. In my opinion, Mack is the top lineman in 2009, period.
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I love this part: I don’t see any contest between Mack and anyone else for the title of best center prospect. In my opinion, Mack is the top lineman in 2009, period.
I like Mack a lot, but I've seen more than one draft guru with Max Unger listed as the better prospect at center. I personally disagree and think Mack is #1 at his position, but my point is that's not a unanimous notion.

Taking him at #13 is way too high, he won't be there when we pick in the 3rd round, so the only way this is possible is if we trade down. And of course that requires the existence of a another team who wants someone bad enough to cough up picks and move up to 13.

I personally think Rabach is more of a liability than an asset at this point, and I would love Mack in the B&G, but I think the chances are remote.
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I like Mack a lot, but I've seen more than one draft guru with Max Unger listed as the better prospect at center. I personally disagree and think Mack is #1 at his position, but my point is that's not a unanimous notion.

Taking him at #13 is way too high, he won't be there when we pick in the 3rd round, so the only way this is possible is if we trade down. And of course that requires the existence of a another team who wants someone bad enough to cough up picks and move up to 13.

I personally think Rabach is more of a liability than an asset at this point, and I would love Mack in the B&G, but I think the chances are remote.
Trading down is probably the easier way to draft Mack but I reckon we could get very crafty and trade up from the 3rd to get him. Personally I prefer this option if it doesn't include giving up future picks. In fact I'd happily see our 3rd, 5th and 6th packaged for Alex Mack. Keep the 13th overall though so we get a legit impact player like...u guessed it REY REY!
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Trading down is probably the easier way to draft Mack but I reckon we could get very crafty and trade up from the 3rd to get him. Personally I prefer this option if it doesn't include giving up future picks. In fact I'd happily see our 3rd, 5th and 6th packaged for Alex Mack. Keep the 13th overall though so we get a legit impact player like...u guessed it REY REY!
I'm assuming you mean a 3rd, 5th, and 6th to move up to the 2nd to get Mack. Which would leave us with a 1st, 2nd, and nothing else until the 7th.

Does anyone know if Mack is even on our radar? There is pretty good center depth out there, with Max Unger, Eric Wood, Antoine Caldwell, Jonathan Luigs, and AQ Shipley. I know Mack is damn good, but I'm not so sure we should package 3 picks for him.
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Trading down is probably the easier way to draft Mack but I reckon we could get very crafty and trade up from the 3rd to get him. Personally I prefer this option if it doesn't include giving up future picks. In fact I'd happily see our 3rd, 5th and 6th packaged for Alex Mack. Keep the 13th overall though so we get a legit impact player like...u guessed it REY REY!
Ever since you brought up the very remote possibility of getting Rey AND Mack, I've had to tell myself to calm down. I would absolutely, totally, freak-out if that were to happen. I would not be able to contain myself for days and would probably drive everyone I know crazy with how the Redskins are going to be the Baddest MF***g team in the NFL!
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I like Mack a lot, but I've seen more than one draft guru with Max Unger listed as the better prospect at center. I personally disagree and think Mack is #1 at his position, but my point is that's not a unanimous notion.

Taking him at #13 is way too high, he won't be there when we pick in the 3rd round, so the only way this is possible is if we trade down. And of course that requires the existence of a another team who wants someone bad enough to cough up picks and move up to 13.

I personally think Rabach is more of a liability than an asset at this point, and I would love Mack in the B&G, but I think the chances are remote.
Unger is good but he's no Alex Mack. I've watched both in college and Mack is more polished and better overall and can also play Guard. Of course I would trade down and get him in the low 20's. You watch, whoever drafts him how much better that OL will be overnight with him in it.
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Unger is good but he's no Alex Mack. I've watched both in college and Mack is more polished and better overall and can also play Guard. Of course I would trade down and get him in the low 20's. You watch, whoever drafts him how much better that OL will be overnight with him in it.
Mack is a stud, but Bugel loves Rabach, and we've showed no signs of wanted to replace him anytime soon. Plus Rabach can't play guard, so drafting Mack with a high pick would mean we'd either bench Rabach and his $3.6M salary, or bench our 1st round pick. O-lineman drafted in the 1st round pretty much never ride the bench. I suppose we could cut Rabach (would only cost us $1.3), but let's be honest, that's not happening.
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I like Mack a lot, but I've seen more than one draft guru with Max Unger listed as the better prospect at center. I personally disagree and think Mack is #1 at his position, but my point is that's not a unanimous notion.

Taking him at #13 is way too high, he won't be there when we pick in the 3rd round, so the only way this is possible is if we trade down. And of course that requires the existence of a another team who wants someone bad enough to cough up picks and move up to 13.

I personally think Rabach is more of a liability than an asset at this point, and I would love Mack in the B&G, but I think the chances are remote.
While I think the chances of drafting Mack are remote, I blame that more on the lack of the FO to understand what builds a strong team and being more interested in "glitter" than anything else. At the bottom of the article it makes some very good points. Who did the Jets get the best value with? LT Ferguson at #4, or center Mangold at #26? Mangold has had as much impact on the Jets line as LT Jake Long who was drafted #1 has had on Miami's. The center has his hands on the ball for every snap and basically tells the line what to do on every play. I do doubt we'll get him, but If we're looking for someone who will have a big impact on the line, not just this season, but for many seasons, I think he's worth the 13th pick. I think the impact a player makes is more important than just the position he plays. Of course all this is based on my belief that Mack is better than the rest at his position and will be a perennial probowler. I do believe the center position in this draft class is deep, but if you can get the best at a position, especially a position of need, why not? I'm all for getting the best football players we can and I would rather have someone like Mack instead of the 2nd or 3rd best DE or LB available. I feel like he would make our o-line and therefore our offense much better and therefore what would it matter if he were taken at #13 or #32? Or in the Jets case with Mangold, #4 or #26? But you're right, we probably won't get him. Danny would rather have someone like Sanchez.
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While I think the chances of drafting Mack are remote, I blame that more on the lack of the FO to understand what builds a strong team and being more interested in "glitter" than anything else. At the bottom of the article it makes some very good points. Who did the Jets get the best value with? LT Ferguson at #4, or center Mangold at #26? Mangold has had as much impact on the Jets line as LT Jake Long who was drafted #1 has had on Miami's. The center has his hands on the ball for every snap and basically tells the line what to do on every play. I do doubt we'll get him, but If we're looking for someone who will have a big impact on the line, not just this season, but for many seasons, I think he's worth the 13th pick. I think the impact a player makes is more important than just the position he plays. Of course all this is based on my belief that Mack is better than the rest at his position and will be a perennial probowler. I do believe the center position in this draft class is deep, but if you can get the best at a position, especially a position of need, why not? I'm all for getting the best football players we can and I would rather have someone like Mack instead of the 2nd or 3rd best DE or LB available. I feel like he would make our o-line and therefore our offense much better and therefore what would it matter if he were taken at #13 or #32? Or in the Jets case with Mangold, #4 or #26? But you're right, we probably won't get him. Danny would rather have someone like Sanchez.
You are right. Excellent example there with Mangold. If you want to build a dynasty, you have to use the draft well. And the best long-term draft strategy in terms of value is to take the best football player available when you pick and not worry too much about position.
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