Best 5 Moves of Dan Snyder Era

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Cooke screwed that up not Snyder.

I would argue that the Cookes screwed it up but Danny Boy disrespectfully exploited the situation.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I would argue that the Cookes screwed it up but Danny Boy disrespectfully exploited the situation.

How so?

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

How so?

Jack Kent Cooke, as much as I admired him, screwed things up by not just leaving the team to his son, John. Instead he made John compete for the team. John needed time to raise the necessary cash. Into this brew leapt Snyder. Snyder could have respected the Skins as a family venture but instead exploited the fact that he could raise cash faster than John Kent Cooke. Further, Cooke, if given enough time, likely could have raised more money than Snyder and bought the team, but Snyder made a high bid and then began threatening lawsuits to force the issue early.

Years later I still see Snyder as a vulture intent on feasting on the difficulties of others. Again, he could have respected the Redskins as a family enterprise. He could have given John Kent Cooke the time to keep the team in the family. He always could have waited respectfully until it became clear that Cooke was not going to get his act together, should that have happened, and then bought the team. Instead Snyder showed the same "me, me, me, my money buys everything, I want it NOW" attitude that I still see him exhibit.

Feel free to disagree but I've thought this way for ten years now.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

5. Buying the Redskins. Look, despite the decade of mediocrity he has done anything he thought would make us a Super Bowl champ. The results have been absent, but you cannot discount the effort. To a man, if any of us had the means, we would probably buy our favorite team as well and do all that we could to field a winner.

Well, I think we could all agree that Al Davis and Matt Millen put forth "effort," but that certainly isn't enough to warrant a pat on the back for them.

Don't forget also, trading for the #3 pick in the 2000 draft wouldn't have been possible if it weren't for Charley Casserly. He was able to accomplish one of the key things that the championship teams are doing now that Snyder and Cerrato haven't done and apparently don't care to do: stockpile draft picks.

And the Clinton Portis debate has been played out ever since he got here. But count me as one who says that we got the shit end of the stick with that one. Portis just hasn't been the game-changing, 'ultimate weapon' we thought he'd be. Champ would have stayed if Snyder signed the check. He kept Lavar instead.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Well, I think we could all agree that Al Davis and Matt Millen put forth "effort," but that certainly isn't enough to warrant a pat on the back for them.

Don't forget also, trading for the #3 pick in the 2000 draft wouldn't have been possible if it weren't for Charley Casserly. He was able to accomplish one of the key things that the championship teams are doing now that Snyder and Cerrato haven't done and apparently don't care to do: stockpile draft picks.

And the Clinton Portis debate has been played out ever since he got here. But count me as one who says that we got the shit end of the stick with that one. Portis just hasn't been the game-changing, 'ultimate weapon' we thought he'd be. Champ would have stayed if Snyder signed the check. He kept Lavar instead.

I agree, we're not giving out participation ribbons around here but I guess I was saying the intentions and effort are there (as opposed to some other owners in the league) but the results have been lacking. No doubt about Casserly and not discounting his work, but the trade was executed post Casserly if I recall correctly. Regarding Champ, at the time of the trade it was clear that Champ wasn't coming back-regardless of the money. Rather than lose him for nothing they got a RB who will be our all team leading rusher, TD scorer and still has 2-3 top level seasons left.

[redskinjim]

shit i cant think my brain is now frozen just like danny boys

[redsk1]

Damn I really trying to think....hmmm....

Hiring Marty and giving him full control

1st round draft picks: ST, LL, Samuels, LA (he was good for awhile), JC (2009!)

I'm not sure JG's would be one of these. While i think he did a great job w/ what he had, DS still did his stupid s*** while JG's was here. AA/BL/etc.

[T.O.Killa]

I have heard so much bad press about the Redskins lately that it is starting to piss me off. The Redskins have made the playoffs two of the past four years. Yes, they have not been the Steelers or the Patriots, but they seem to be on the right track. I believe that it will come together this year. I think they stole Jeremy Bridges and I am becoming a believer in Mike Williams and Chad Rhinehart. We made it to the playoffs, with Heyer at right tackle as a rookie. He will be much better this year than he was then. Our Oline will be the best that we have had since 1992, this year. Anyway, I would like to point out my top five favorite moves and hopefully, some of you will share yours.



1. Hiring Joe Gibbs. What an incredible feat that was. Whether he lost or won just to see him on the sidelines was awsome. I also believe his time here was very successful.

2. Getting Clinton Portis. He brought in a guy that is on his way to being a hall of famer. Should break 10000 yards this year and if I am right that our Oline will be awsome this year, he will have another 1400 plus yard season.

3. Sticking with Vinny Cerrato. Vinny Cerrato has done a far better job of utilizing the draft choices that he has been given than he gets credit for. Last year we drafted 10 players, mostly in late rounds and nine made it. The one that did not was Danny Smith's pick for a punter. He has not had an early round bust in since 2002, in Patrick Ramsey and many teams have had bad picks at QB His best days are yet to come and the fruits of last years draft will be born out this year.

4. Getting Albert Haynesworth. I think that the front office has learned from past mistakes, especially from the free agent class of 2006. Don't over pay guy that you believe is on the brink of greatness. Such as Lloyd, Carter and Randel El. Just get the best proven player in football and you cant go wrong.

5. Resigning Dockery and DeAngelo Hall. Both of these guy are going to have great seasons this year, assuming they stay healthy. The Redskins have received allot of heat for giving Hall such a large contract, but if he can play at the all level he is capable of, he will be a bargain at 8 mil a year.

[Smooter]

You can't leave out drafting Sean Taylor.

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by Smooter

You can't leave out drafting Sean Taylor.

Cant believe I did. Imagine how good our defense would be with him in the mix.
And what about firing the losingest coach ever, Norve Turner.

[GMScud]

Colt Brennan. No question.

Seriously though, I really like a lot of the draft picks we landed while Gibbs was here- Jason Campbell, Carlos Rogers, Chris Cooley, Laron Landry, and Sean Taylor particularly.

I won't give Snyder credit for those individual picks per se, but hiring Gibbs and then having the humility to step back and let a football guy do football things is what currently has us on a solid track.

[Paintrain]

See also:

http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-l...der-era-3.html

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

See also:

http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-l...der-era-3.html

Just because he said that does not mean it is true. Most of the later round quarterbacks that have gone on to great things(such as Brady) were thought to have weaknesses they did not have.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

Just because he said that does not mean it is true. Most of the later round quarterbacks that have gone on to great things(such as Brady) were thought to have weaknesses they did not have.

Huh? I was directing people to an already existing thread about the same topic. Not sure what you were replying to.

[WaldSkins]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Huh? I was directing people to an already existing thread about the same topic. Not sure what you were replying to.

I was gonna say, i thought I had already posted on this thread. Must have been the original under the same title.