Mark Sanchez at 13th?

[GTripp0012]

I have no idea how Sanchez has "it" while Quinn and Campbell don't. Seems like an easy way to draw a line between the two with no other good reason to do so.

I agree that Quinn and Campbell are very similar in most respects. One of those respects is that they seem to be stronger players than Sanchez, based at least on the law of averages.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I have no idea how Sanchez has "it" while Quinn and Campbell don't. Seems like an easy way to draw a line between the two with no other good reason to do so.

I agree that Quinn and Campbell are very similar in most respects. One of those respects is that they seem to be stronger players than Sanchez, based at least on the law of averages.

I don't know why Collins doesn't have "it"? He's done something that none of these guys have; he's taken us to the play-offs. Of course that doesn't mean anything if you've a lot of money and spend it like a kid in the candy store.

What do I know? I'm just a fan.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I have no idea how Sanchez has "it" while Quinn and Campbell don't. Seems like an easy way to draw a line between the two with no other good reason to do so.

I agree that Quinn and Campbell are very similar in most respects. One of those respects is that they seem to be stronger players than Sanchez, based at least on the law of averages.

GT just curious whether u think JC will get a chance to start elsewhere after Snyder finds a way to dump him?

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Just a couple of tidbits I heard on ESPN today:

First for all those enamored with Sanchez: On Cowherd's show (while a Skins bashing a-hole, he does from time-to-time make a good point or two). Paraphrased "Of QBs taken with picks in the top 12 overall in the last 8 years (I believe), there were a total of 18, 11 are generally considered busts, 2 the jury's still out, and 5 are hits." So on the high end 38% and on the low end 27.7% are the chances that Sanchez will be the "QB of the future" for the Skins. Are you JC basher/Sanchez/Quinn lovers willing to risk at a minimum two 1 round picks and a 4th, on what is a sub-38% chance of success.

Second, Mike Torico (sp?) mentioned that he doesn't even talk with NFL people at this time of year because all you get is misinformation and I believe he used the phrase "a bunch of smoke".

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Just a couple of tidbits I heard on ESPN today:

First for all those enamored with Sanchez: On Cowherd's show (while a Skins bashing a-hole, he does from time-to-time make a good point or two). Paraphrased "Of QBs taken with picks in the top 12 overall in the last 8 years (I believe), there were a total of 18, 11 are generally considered busts, 2 the jury's still out, and 5 are hits." So on the high end 38% and on the low end 27.7% are the chances that Sanchez will be the "QB of the future" for the Skins. Are you JC basher/Sanchez/Quinn lovers willing to risk at a minimum two 1 round picks and a 4th, on what is a sub-38% chance of success.

Second, Mike Torico (sp?) mentioned that he doesn't even talk with NFL people at this time of year because all you get is misinformation and I believe he used the phrase "a bunch of smoke".

Yes. Today I read one article which said we were moving up to draft Sanchez and the very next article I read said the Skins-Sanchez thing was all smoke. One article said the Browns would take Sanchez, the next one said that the Browns didn't want Sanchez and desperately wanted to trade down.

The point: I'm not going to believe ANYTHING this week until I see picks with my own eyes on Saturday afternoon.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Yes. Today I read one article which said we were moving up to draft Sanchez and the very next article I read said the Skins-Sanchez thing was all smoke. One article said the Browns would take Sanchez, the next one said that the Browns didn't want Sanchez and desperately wanted to trade down.

The point: I'm not going to believe ANYTHING this week until I see picks with my own eyes on Saturday afternoon.

I like to think I have a bit more access to the inner machinations of NFL teams than many...but come this time of year, none of us has any idea. This is definitely the most confused about the Redskins' thoughts as I've been in a long time (and they're generally very confusing). What's most interesting in all of this it that seems that the one guy (the one key guy that is) that doesn't seem to enamored with Sanchez either by trading up or taking him at 13 is Cerrato.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I like to think I have a bit more access to the inner machinations of NFL teams than many...but come this time of year, none of us has any idea. This is definitely the most confused about the Redskins' thoughts as I've been in a long time (and they're generally very confusing). What's most interesting in all of this it that seems that the one guy (the one key guy that is) that doesn't seem to enamored with Sanchez either by trading up or taking him at 13 is Cerrato.

Well, like the previous Dan Snyder tantrum (trading for Cutler), I hope that this ends up not happening. I hope that VC is just putting up with DS' Sanchez tantrum, and sets it up where he comes to DS and tells him that it wasn't possible to get Sanchez (and draft Oher instead!).

Well, more and more I'm thinking that this Sanchez deal is a smoke screen to get a lower pick team to trade with us. If getting Sanchez had any remote possibility, Mike Florio would be blasting it all over PFT.com like he did with the Cutler situation.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Well, like the previous Dan Snyder tantrum (trading for Cutler), I hope that this ends up not happening. I hope that VC is just putting up with DS' Sanchez tantrum, and sets it up where he comes to DS and tells him that it wasn't possible to get Sanchez (and draft Oher instead!).

Well, more and more I'm thinking that this Sanchez deal is a smoke screen to get a lower pick team to trade with us. If getting Sanchez had any remote possibility, Mike Florio would be blasting it all over PFT.com like he did with the Cutler situation.

I think Sanchez is possible, I just don't think we're likely to be able to trade up to get him (if we had our 2nd round pick still, that might have been the case).

I think ultimately is less about Sanchez and more about Campbell. If he's not the guy in 2010 and beyond, and Colt isn't the guy until 2011 at the earliest then what do we do?

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I like to think I have a bit more access to the inner machinations of NFL teams than many...but come this time of year, none of us has any idea. This is definitely the most confused about the Redskins' thoughts as I've been in a long time (and they're generally very confusing). What's most interesting in all of this it that seems that the one guy (the one key guy that is) that doesn't seem to enamored with Sanchez either by trading up or taking him at 13 is Cerrato.

Yay!

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I like to think I have a bit more access to the inner machinations of NFL teams than many...but come this time of year, none of us has any idea. This is definitely the most confused about the Redskins' thoughts as I've been in a long time (and they're generally very confusing). What's most interesting in all of this it that seems that the one guy (the one key guy that is) that doesn't seem to enamored with Sanchez either by trading up or taking him at 13 is Cerrato.

The most interesting place to be right now would be in the scouting rooms around the NFL, and specifically the conversations between DS, VC, and JZ. They always say that going in they come to a overriding agreement on what the game plan is, and if I understand it, VC pulls the trigger on draft day. This week would surely be interesting to hear the confidential conversations.