Your thoughts "IF" Shanahan were to replace Zorn in 2010

[irish]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

If it happened, and I'm not advocating it, I wouldn't look at it as here we go again. If Snyder hires a Shanahan or Cowher, he's looking at a 10 year hire, and the first $100 million coach. With that kind of investment he's got to give full and complete control.

Zorn really had 'stopgap' written on him from jump. There wasn't a plan to replace Gibbs so Snyder had to go with what he could in a 'weak' coaching market that year. To hook a big fish he's going to have to shed his albatross in Vinny which was reportedly the barrier to getting Spags from NYG and take a large step back from football operations.

Shanny is experienced in dealing with a high profile, big money owner with Bowlen so he'd be up for the challenge, the main question would be if Danny would fire his 'boy' in order to make it happen.

Cowher isnt coming here ever. He wont put up with DS's way of running a team. Also, there is no way either Cowher of Shanahan would stay for 10 years. Besides DS not having that kind of patience, those are older men and they understand the meatgrinder that is NFL coaching and 10 years is a long time under that stress. If you ask me, Zorn should be the 10 year hire. He younger and full of energy having never been thru the meat grinder. IMO, Zorn should stay for a minimum of 5 years no matter what happens but with an owner like DS that will never happen.

[724Skinsfan]

Originally Posted by irish

Cowher isnt coming here ever. He wont put up with DS's way of running a team. Also, there is no way either Cowher of Shanahan would stay for 10 years. Besides DS not having that kind of patience, those are older men and they understand the meatgrinder that is NFL coaching and 10 years is a long time under that stress. If you ask me, Zorn should be the 10 year hire. He younger and full of energy having never been thru the meat grinder. IMO, Zorn should stay for a minimum of 5 years no matter what happens but with an owner like DS that will never happen.

Totally agree. Zorn should be given enough time to determine if his system and his players can make it to perennial Super Bowl contender. 1 and 2 year tryouts isn't adequate enough. Plenty of the all-time great coaches struggled, especially in their first year.

Oh, Zorn is actually older than Cowher.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by irish

Cowher isnt coming here ever. He wont put up with DS's way of running a team. Also, there is no way either Cowher of Shanahan would stay for 10 years. Besides DS not having that kind of patience, those are older men and they understand the meatgrinder that is NFL coaching and 10 years is a long time under that stress. If you ask me, Zorn should be the 10 year hire. He younger and full of energy having never been thru the meat grinder. IMO, Zorn should stay for a minimum of 5 years no matter what happens but with an owner like DS that will never happen.

Well I stated earlier this week we don't really have a good chance at Cowher-too close to Marty, Shanahan-too close to Jerry Jones or Holmgren-too close to Zorn who would have just been fired. I was just hypothesizing based on the question. Maybe a 10 year $100 million contract is high, but you can certainly count on 5 years for $50 million without even blinking.

It would be huge for Zorn to have the level of success to gain a 10 year run as head coach but when he was hired it never seemed like that was the plan. Didn't he get a 5 year contract but only 3 were guaranteed?

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by irish

Cowher isnt coming here ever. He wont put up with DS's way of running a team. Also, there is no way either Cowher of Shanahan would stay for 10 years. Besides DS not having that kind of patience, those are older men and they understand the meatgrinder that is NFL coaching and 10 years is a long time under that stress. If you ask me, Zorn should be the 10 year hire. He younger and full of energy having never been thru the meat grinder. IMO, Zorn should stay for a minimum of 5 years no matter what happens but with an owner like DS that will never happen.

As a side note:

Bill Cowher
Born: May 8, 1957 (1957-05-08) (age 51)
Crafton, Pennsylvania

Jim Zorn
Born: May 10, 1953 (1953-05-10) (age 55)
Whittier, California

Mike Shanahan
Date of birthAugust 24, 1952 (1952-08-24) (age 56)

Jon Gruden
Date of birthAugust 17, 1963 (1963-08-17) (age 45)

To be honest with you they all are about the same age other then Gruden but he's only 5 or 6 yrs off Cowher.

[irish]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

As a side note:

Bill Cowher
Born: May 8, 1957 (1957-05-08) (age 51)
Crafton, Pennsylvania

Jim Zorn
Born: May 10, 1953 (1953-05-10) (age 55)
Whittier, California

Mike Shanahan
Date of birthAugust 24, 1952 (1952-08-24) (age 56)

Jon Gruden
Date of birthAugust 17, 1963 (1963-08-17) (age 45)

To be honest with you they all are about the same age other then Gruden but he's only 5 or 6 yrs off Cowher.

They are all the same age but Zorn hasnt been through the meat grinder like the others have.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by irish

They are all the same age but Zorn hasnt been through the meat grinder like the others have.

That was my feeling as well. I would much rather give Zorn a fairly comfortable 5 yr window, but of course, I also would keep JC as qb, so I don't know that my thoughts are in line with the FO right now.