DCPSR Official Mock Draft

[Lotus]

Yes, it is hard to see Rey not taken in the first.

However, if we get Ayers as this draft predicts, I'd be a happy camper.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Yes, it is hard to see Rey not taken in the first.

However, if we get Ayers as this draft predicts, I'd be a happy camper.

Haven't read up on Ayers much...I see Kiper lists him as the 3rd best DE in the draft and he should have the size to play LDE.

...drafting DE is a tough one for me. Important position for sure but especially w/ LDE it seems our system sort of dictates the performance: quash the run and collapse the pocket. Honestly I don't know if any of the college prospects will quash the run as well as a healthy Daniels/Wynn rotation w/ the exception of Tyson Jackson. Guy is a wall who can just move people. But Orakpo, Ayers etc is def the balls to the walls pass-rush option right? And w/ big Al in the middle now maybe pass-rushing focus is smarter.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Haven't read up on Ayers much...I see Kiper lists him as the 3rd best DE in the draft and he should have the size to play LDE.

...drafting DE is a tough one for me. Important position for sure but especially w/ LDE it seems our system sort of dictates the performance: quash the run and collapse the pocket. Honestly I don't know if any of the college prospects will quash the run as well as a healthy Daniels/Wynn rotation w/ the exception of Tyson Jackson. Guy is a wall who can just move people. But Orakpo, Ayers etc is def the balls to the walls pass-rush option right? And w/ big Al in the middle now maybe pass-rushing focus is smarter.

Actually Ayers gets talked up more as a run-stuffer than as a pass rusher. However, I think he has the right combination of both size and speed to be good against both run and pass. I like Tyson Jackson too but IMO he is too big to have too much pass rush burst off of the corner. That having been said, I will celebrate with you if we draft Jackson because I think he will be a really good player.

i go back and forth about Orakpo and Ayers. I would love to have Orakpo's pass rush. But I think Ayers fits better in terms of a being wall against the run like we want in our LDE.

This is just Mayock's opinion, of course, but Mayock said Ayers will turn out to be the best defensive player in the draft. Whether or not that is true, Ayers gave Andre Smith fits in the regular season and had a really good Senior Bowl. When I saw him in the Senior Bowl I began to drool.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Actually Ayers gets talked up more as a run-stuffer than as a pass rusher. However, I think he has the right combination of both size and speed to be good against both run and pass. I like Tyson Jackson too but IMO he is too big to have too much pass rush burst off of the corner. That having been said, I will celebrate with you if we draft Jackson because I think he will be a really good player.

i go back and forth about Orakpo and Ayers. I would love to have Orakpo's pass rush. But I think Ayers fits better in terms of a being wall against the run like we want in our LDE.

This is just Mayock's opinion, of course, but Mayock said Ayers will turn out to be the best defensive player in the draft. Whether or not that is true, Ayers gave Andre Smith fits in the regular season and had a really good Senior Bowl. When I saw him in the Senior Bowl I began to drool.

Interesting stuff man. Jeez we'd be stacked on the d-line if we take a true DE like Ayers or Jackson. Nice thought. Agree w/ you on Jackson's size being a trade-off...he's not going to beat any RTs around the end but in college it didn't matter cuz he collapsed the pocket so fast...not a lot of sacks but consistently forcing the QB to scramble out of the pocket. I like that combo w/ Al coming up the middle and Carter on the other edge.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Interesting stuff man. Jeez we'd be stacked on the d-line if we take a true DE like Ayers or Jackson. Nice thought. Agree w/ you on Jackson's size being a trade-off...he's not going to beat any RTs around the end but in college it didn't matter cuz he collapsed the pocket so fast...not a lot of sacks but consistently forcing the QB to scramble out of the pocket. I like that combo w/ Al coming up the middle and Carter on the other edge.

Their DL seriously helps the Giants to be as good as they are. With one of these combinations, we would rival them. We could beat people up front pretty badly. And with our capable secondary, we could have an amazing defense for some time to come. CRUNCH!