Kiper, Mayock, or Mcshay?

[celts32]

I love Kiper...he's the best and the original. I think Mayock is really good though. McShay...no thanks.

Speaking of McShay...does anyone else find it odd that he seems to be on ESPN more then Mel leading up to the draft? Kiper seems to be so under utilized by ESPN. Not sure if thats his doing or ESPN's doing. Smoot?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by celts32

I love Kiper...he's the best and the original. I think Mayock is really good though. McShay...no thanks.

Speaking of McShay...does anyone else find it odd that he seems to be on ESPN more then Mel leading up to the draft? Kiper seems to be so under utilized by ESPN. Not sure if thats his doing or ESPN's doing. Smoot?

Don't worry, Mel will be on a lot this weekend. McShay is around more often and he always wants to work. Anything you need, he's extremely helpful.

[GMScud]

Sometimes Kiper gets on my nerves (I think it's the hair), but I don't dislike him. McShay is really solid IMO. I'm not sure if it's their delivery, but I feel like Mike Mayock is the best talent evaluator of the three. I really love his analysis during the scouting combine.

On a side note, the "Mock McShay" bit on Mike & Mike in the Morning was hilarious. "Hey McShay, are you related to Ryan Seacrest or are the hair and height a coincidence?" LOL! Great stuff.

Anyone see this article in the NY Times yesterday? Great read about Mel Kiper and his wife Kim. They run their entire business out of their home in Baltimore. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/24/sp...l/24kiper.html

[poopoobigelow]

Originally Posted by celts32

I love Kiper...he's the best and the original. I think Mayock is really good though. McShay...no thanks.

Speaking of McShay...does anyone else find it odd that he seems to be on ESPN more then Mel leading up to the draft? Kiper seems to be so under utilized by ESPN. Not sure if thats his doing or ESPN's doing. Smoot?

from what i understand, ESPN is grooming mcshay and phasing out kiper... which lead kiper getting a little bit pissy towards mcshay when they started debating each other... which turned into them not liking each other, which lead to more venom between them...

i guess that ESPN likes their NFL gurus to be dicks to each other... and with clayton v salisbury over due to the cryptkeeper comments, they needed new guys to piss each other off...

i like them all, i guess... but, no one should put too much stock in their mocks, as i saw that last draft kiper got the most picks right out of the popular gurus, which something like 7 out of 31... my wife could probably get that many right just guessing...

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by poopoobigelow

from what i understand, ESPN is grooming mcshay and phasing out kiper... which lead kiper getting a little bit pissy towards mcshay when they started debating each other... which turned into them not liking each other, which lead to more venom between them...

i guess that ESPN likes their NFL gurus to be dicks to each other... and with clayton v salisbury over due to the cryptkeeper comments, they needed new guys to piss each other off...

i like them all, i guess... but, no one should put too much stock in their mocks, as i saw that last draft kiper got the most picks right out of the popular gurus, which something like 7 out of 31... my wife could probably get that many right just guessing...

They're definitely grooming McShay. But Kiper is one of the guys grooming him. I don't think they really have a problem with each other

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

They're definitely grooming McShay. But Kiper is one of the guys grooming him. I don't think they really have a problem with each other

What's the deal with these two? It's like ESPN is trying to have rivals on their own network and it blew up in their face w/ Sean S. and Clayton. Just silly ass games and stuff. I pretty much stayed on NFLN. I'm so over Chris Berman. And maybe you can explain this.... Trent Dilfer is good and very knowledgable, but he just comes arcoss as overly dramatic when talking about QB's and it's sooooo evident that he has a hard on for Sanchez. Just annoying....

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

What's the deal with these two? It's like ESPN is trying to have rivals on their own network and it blew up in their face w/ Sean S. and Clayton. Just silly ass games and stuff. I pretty much stayed on NFLN. I'm so over Chris Berman. And maybe you can explain this.... Trent Dilfer is good and very knowledgable, but he just comes arcoss as overly dramatic when talking about QB's and it's sooooo evident that he has a hard on for Sanchez. Just annoying....

What's the deal with Kiper and McShay?

As for Dilfer, I haven't really noticed it. Guess I haven't watched him that much.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

What's the deal with Kiper and McShay?

As for Dilfer, I haven't really noticed it. Guess I haven't watched him that much.

yeah they keep trying to out do each other and agrue about players and draft grades. it's like a toned down version of clayton and sailsbury.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

yeah they keep trying to out do each other and agrue about players and draft grades. it's like a toned down version of clayton and sailsbury.

I mean they agree sometimes, they disagree sometimes. I guess I don't see the big deal

(I miss Salisbury)