Grade the Redskins Draft!

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

This FO is an embarrassment.

I believe Brian Orakpo will be our best draft pick since Chris Cooley. (I'd say since Sean Taylor, but Cooley was drafted shortly after him. As a matter of fact, with the way Cooley keeps churning out awesome seasons, you can almost speculate that we picked potential Hall of Famers with consecutive picks).

The fact that we didn't blow our wad on Sanchez restored some faith in the FO with me. However I'd love to hear an explanation as to why we ignored the O-line.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

This FO is an embarrassment.

See I don't blame Vinny because he is a puppet. He is protecting his job.

It is almost like Snyder wants Campbell to fail. They should have traded the last 4 picks this year for picks next year.

The thing is that they will probably hit with Orakpo and the corner and then claim how successful the draft was.

Who the f--- is Cody Glenn?

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

See I don't blame Vinny because he is a puppet. He is protecting his job.

It is almost like Snyder wants Campbell to fail. They should have traded the last 4 picks this year for picks next year.

The thing is that they will probably hit with Orakpo and the corner and then claim how successful the draft was.

Who the f--- is Cody Glenn?

Well, if you get two quality starters out of a draft, it was probably pretty successful, especially without a 2nd rounder.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Well, if you get two quality starters out of a draft, it was probably pretty successful, especially without a 2nd rounder.

That is a pretty low expectation level. When the Giants won it they nailed something like 7 picks.

[theJBexperience]

Well, maybe VC will be gone next year if this class and last year's don't produce.

[SmootSmack]

You gotta wonder why so many teams, not just us, passed on OL like Duke Robinson. Orakpo and Barnes are great picks. Glenn is borderline. Henson and Williams I don't get really. Mitchell could be a steal, but I hope not because more than likely it would mean that he got playing time because Kelly couldn't stay healthy.

I'll give it a C, but I'm not one to grade off-seasons based only on draft.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You gotta wonder why so many teams, not just us, passed on OL like Duke Robinson. Orakpo and Barnes are great picks. Glenn is borderline. Henson and Williams I don't get really. Mitchell could be a steal, but I hope not because more than likely it would mean that he got playing time because Kelly couldn't stay healthy.

I'll give it a C, but I'm not one to grade off-seasons based only on draft.

Robinson's performance in the Natn'l Championship against a fast SEC defense was downright pathetic. He got blown by multiple times, drew 3 or 4 penalties, and even got benched for a few series. It hurt him significantly I think.

But this thread isn't asking you to grade the off-season.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Robinson's performance in the Natn'l Championship against a fast SEC defense was downright pathetic. He got blown by multiple times, drew 3 or 4 penalties, and even got benched for a few series. It hurt him significantly I think.

But this thread isn't asking you to grade the off-season.

That was one game. Robinson was four starter and started as a true freshman at LT. All of this in the SEC. So what did Cody Glenn do that made him a better prospect than Robinson? Gleen started one year at a not so good Nebraska team? Don't get it. No logic there.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

That was one game. Robinson was four starter and started as a true freshman at LT. All of this in the SEC. So what did Cody Glenn do that made him a better prospect than Robinson?

1st of all, Duke Robinson played for Oklahoma. Last time I checked that's in the Big 12.

2nd, I never said Cody Glenn was a better prospect. In fact, I would have been much happier with Duke than Glenn. I'm just pointing out something that probably hurt his stock.

If you don't think one game can make a guy plummet in the draft, see our very own Colt Brennan. After what Georgia did to Hawaii in that BCS game, Brennan fell far and fast. Granted it was mostly the O-line's fault, just saying.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by GMScud

1st of all, Duke Robinson played for Oklahoma. Last time I checked that's in the Big 12.

2nd, I never said Cody Glenn was a better prospect. In fact, I would have been much happier with Duke than Glenn. I'm just pointing out something that probably hurt his stock.

If you don't think one game can make a guy plummet in the draft, see our very own Colt Brennan. After what Georgia did to Hawaii in that BCS game, Brennan fell far and fast. Granted it was mostly the O-line's fault, just saying.

Duke Robinson in the 5th would've been a steal.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Robinson's performance in the Natn'l Championship against a fast SEC defense was downright pathetic. He got blown by multiple times, drew 3 or 4 penalties, and even got benched for a few series. It hurt him significantly I think.

But this thread isn't asking you to grade the off-season.

I know, not grading the off-season here. Just giving the draft a C. I give Orakpo and Barnes both A's. Glenn a B-, Henson and Mitchell Ds, and Mitchell a C+. I give more weight to the early picks because they are higher picks so they (the team) should hit on those. So somehow that averages out to a C,

[Number44]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I know, not grading the off-season here. Just giving the draft a C. I give Orakpo and Barnes both A's. Glenn a B-, Henson and Mitchell Ds, and Mitchell a C+. I give more weight to the early picks because they are higher picks so they (the team) should hit on those. So somehow that averages out to a C,

Not to single you out, as this seems to be the consensus here, but I really think we need to evaluate the weight we are giving to the various picks. We had a 1st, a 3rd, and 5,6,7,7. The 1st rounder was in the upper half of the round, at #13. So many posters seem to be evaluating this draft as if all of the picks each carry the same weight. To me, that 1st round pick has to be weighted at 75-80% of total grade, at a minimum. The 3rd rounder is another 10-15%. If we grade those 2 at an A, the total grade would be a B at a minimum, and that would be ONLY if all 4 of the late picks are given a zero.

I grade this draft an A, and it is an easy call. A B was guaranteed when we got Orakpo, IMO. I was happy with the Barnes pick, so the A was earned at that point. Anything the late rounders do for us will just be icing on the cake, as is always the case.

Sorry, but I don't care that our late round picks had no media hype. I'm not ready to enshrine Duke Robinson in the Hall of Fame just yet, either. He and the other OLs we passed on were also passed on over and over by every single team in the league until the late rounds. Maybe, just maybe, the NFL people in the know don't rate them as highly as some of us on the outside.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You gotta wonder why so many teams, not just us, passed on OL like Duke Robinson. Orakpo and Barnes are great picks. Glenn is borderline. Henson and Williams I don't get really. Mitchell could be a steal, but I hope not because more than likely it would mean that he got playing time because Kelly couldn't stay healthy.

I'll give it a C, but I'm not one to grade off-seasons based only on draft.

HOF Russ Grimm was not taken until the 3rd round. For some strange reason college OG's drop in value because the assumption is they are as good as an OT. It is a bad assumption. I think some of these great OG that were picked later in this draft will end up being better NFL OL than some of the OT that were taken higher.

[Trample the Elderly]

1- Brian Orakpo (DE) B+ I would've tried to trade down to get Mack and Eben Britton, but this has to be the best pick out our entire draft. If no one would've traded I would've taken Oher.

3- Kevin Barnes (CB) F- We drafted a CB last year (Tryon), we signed Hall, and we've Smoot, Westbrook, and Rogers already.

5- Cody Glenn (OLB) C+ Ok, we needed an OLB but I would've used the third to get a better OLB, not to mention all of the Ts right there for the picking. Jamon Meredith or Duke Robinson would've made more sense.

6- Robert Henson (OLB) F- Overkill.

7- Eddie Williams (TE/FB) D- So is he going to be a FB or a TE? Don't we already have Cooley, Davis and Yoder? Sellers is there? If we wanted a true FB than why not sign one. I would've taken Rashad Jennings.

7- Marko Mitchell (WR) F-- No need to explain this grade.

If they did they're homework on this draft I can't see it, at least right now. Week eight will prove me right.

[SBXVII]

I was kinda shocked. I could not get on this web site all day. busy, busy, busy. Oh well. lol.

Now I graded it a C. I love the 1st round pick I guess. This a long with AH should make us a beast on defense. Then I kinda expected some OL. Only cause offense was our weakness last yr. Defense was ranked 4th. Go figure. All in all I figured since they went mostly offense last yr they probubly felt they should go mostly defense this yr.

I'm excited to see what CB Kevin Barnes brings. He seemed like a real hitter but the mags said he injured his colar bone and had a pin put in. Wonder how well it will hold up.

I know nothing about the two LB's we picked. I thought they had ideas of moving Chris Wilson to LB. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

I never saw that they picked a TE/FB. I don't know why. They have Davis and Cooley. Unless they are trying to see if this guy is better then Sellers or Yoder.

I'm excited about the WR. Even though he's a late pick and most likely camp fodder, I like the fact their bringing someone else in, in case Kelly has a set back.