Do You think Betts is Expendable?

[The Goat]

Betts wouldn't garner much value at this point and unless we replaced him w/ an upgrade, probably from FA, i don't see any reason to jetison him. Betts needs to stop fumbling regularly...IMO that is his real weakness. The rest is up to Zorn using Betts smarter i.e. give the guy several series in a row downhill running and more passes out of the backfield and i guarentee Warpathers will start singing his praises.

...to the point about our need for a change up to CP my gut has been we should go the other direction, a bruiser who will pound on the defense early in a game so when CP comes in he can slash and burn his way to big yardage. I hoped Betts would take on that role...maybe add 10lbs cuz his frame would hold up and then just pound on the defense.

[Superman13732]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Betts wouldn't garner much value at this point and unless we replaced him w/ an upgrade, probably from FA, i don't see any reason to jetison him. Betts needs to stop fumbling regularly...IMO that is his real weakness. The rest is up to Zorn using Betts smarter i.e. give the guy several series in a row downhill running and more passes out of the backfield and i guarentee Warpathers will start singing his praises.

...to the point about our need for a change up to CP my gut has been we should go the other direction, a bruiser who will pound on the defense early in a game so when CP comes in he can slash and burn his way to big yardage. I hoped Betts would take on that role...maybe add 10lbs cuz his frame would hold up and then just pound on the defense.

I kind of liked what the Ravens did last year with McClain and Neals, they had two guys in there that tipped the scales at 280+ and just pounded the defensive lines into the mud, if Sellers can work on his fumbling issues, would it be feasable to throw Yoder back there as Seller's FB, or the other way around?

[GMScud]

I wish we would have ended up with a change of pace back in the draft. A la Javon Ringer or a Kory Sheets.

Betts is a downgrade from Portis in basically every aspect when he's on the field. I'd like a 3rd down scat-back kind of player who can spell Portis AND bring something different to the table.

[Trample the Elderly]

I'd like a bigger RB like Brandon Jacobs or Marion Barber to run up the middle and let Portis cut up the sides like he was meant to do.

I think Betts would be a better ball carrier if he got more carries. Portis and Betts fumble every once in awhile although it's usually when we really don't need it.

Betts isn't expendable unless there's an upgrade waiting to take his spot. Mason has the same kind of build as Betts and Portis with the latter two having a few more years in the weight room. With Mason we're just getting a younger Portis or Betts without the experience, bulk, or skill. I do like him though.

How about this one? Which RB would you most be willing to part with and why? What Sayeth the Mob?

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

I'd like a bigger RB like Brandon Jacobs or Marion Barber to run up the middle and let Portis cut up the sides like he was meant to do.

I think Betts would be a better ball carrier if he got more carries. Portis and Betts fumble every once in awhile although it's usually when we really don't need it.

Betts isn't expendable unless there's an upgrade waiting to take his spot. Mason has the same kind of build as Betts and Portis with the latter two having a few more years in the weight room. With Mason we're just getting a younger Portis or Betts without the experience, bulk, or skill. I do like him though.

How about this one? Which RB would you most be willing to part with and why? What Sayeth the Mob?

Rock no question...like someone else said I could see this as the year he gets cut. We need something new on KR...maybe one of these young prospects.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

I'd like a bigger RB like Brandon Jacobs or Marion Barber to run up the middle and let Portis cut up the sides like he was meant to do.

I've got the perfect RB for you, Michael Bush of the Raiders. In my opinion that guy could be better than Brandon Jacobs, he's a beast!! Supposedly the Raiders were shopping him before the draft. Did you see what he did to TB in TB who at the time was fighting for a playoff spot?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I've got the perfect RB for you, Michael Bush of the Raiders. In my opinion that guy could be better than Brandon Jacobs, he's a beast!! Supposedly the Raiders were shopping him before the draft. Did you see what he did to TB in TB who at the time was fighting for a playoff spot?

Bush is skilled, but the Raiders need him more than they think they do. No amount of hype is going to make Darren McFadden a great runner, nor will any amount of money make Justin Fargas reliable. Basically, their price tag on Bush will be much higher than anyone can afford for a complementary runner.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Bush is skilled, but the Raiders need him more than they think they do. No amount of hype is going to make Darren McFadden a great runner, nor will any amount of money make Justin Fargas reliable. Basically, their price tag on Bush will be much higher than anyone can afford for a complementary runner.

They were ready to trade him for Ocho Cinco but must have come to their senses.

[gw0103]

Originally Posted by Superman13732

I kind of liked what the Ravens did last year with McClain and Neals, they had two guys in there that tipped the scales at 280+ and just pounded the defensive lines into the mud, if Sellers can work on his fumbling issues, would it be feasable to throw Yoder back there as Seller's FB, or the other way around?

THAT'S WHAT I AM SAYING!!!!!! Our skins have a history of smash mouth, rush heavy offense. I think we find a couple of big backs with potential and start developing them along with building a deep, strong OL with what's left in free agency and udfa's. With that done, JC can really develop even more.

[Zerohero]

Yeah you really can't fault Betts when he gets zero carries, if Portis wouldn't throw a fit everytime hes taken out maybe Betts can see the potential come out from a couple years ago. Plus Betts getting more carries only helps Portis, for this season and maybe add some time to his career.

[redskingrove]

Portis #1 back, Sellers as FB, Keep Cartwright as #2 back, and let Alridge and Mason compete for the #3 back position. Dorsey or #3 back competition loser could compete for special teams or be practice squad. Trade Betts for a starter quality LB. Saints only have 2 backs. Maybe they would be interested in a trade for Betts or another team. Betts is a good back but not a change of pace back for Portis. Maybe Alridge or Mason who are quick slash type runners can compete as the #2 back even.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by redskingrove

Portis #1 back, Sellers as FB, Keep Cartwright as #2 back, and let Alridge and Mason compete for the #3 back position. Dorsey or #3 back competition loser could compete for special teams or be practice squad. Trade Betts for a starter quality LB. Saints only have 2 backs. Maybe they would be interested in a trade for Betts or another team. Betts is a good back but not a change of pace back for Portis. Maybe Alridge or Mason who are quick slash type runners can compete as the #2 back even.

While I disagree with Cartwright being the #2 back (he may not even make the roster this year) I agree with shopping Betts for a starting quality LB. I think we could make a play for Edge James to pair with Portis and see what we have with Aldridge/Dorsey/Mason.

I've never really gotten the fascination with Betts. He's okay as a RB but doesn't do anything impressive. There's not any aspect of his game that stands out.