Levi Jones released by the Bengals

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I am sure I have done it, but how can you put these two points in the same reply. Your logic says we have had enough injured players, so no Levi (ok, I understand that); but Jansen can make a solid comeback since he was a great Tackle(Levi was not shabby either) until injuries derailed him.

Your basic flow then is don't get the oft injured tackle, lets count on the oft injured tackle.

We obviously are doing the Golden Corral of RT's so we might as well have a serving of Levi on our plate if we can sign him appropriately.

No, let me explain...we have no choice with Jansen...he's already here and he was "injured in the line of duty for US". Levi is someone elses issue, so he would need to be far and away a better option and not much of an injury risk. We have the option NOT to pick up Levi. Let Jansen show what he can do...if not, he's toast. I just have a feeling about him. I could be wrong, but Jansen might be a much better tackle this year. Time will tell.
Hope that explains it.

[an23dy]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Just an FYI, we have over 8 mil in cap space.

I do not think an often injured player is someone we should be looking at. He had a season ending injury last year, and we have had enough of that.

All the haters on Jansen...I am one of the few that thinks he might be able to make a solid comeback this year after a year of strengthening and conditioning his injured parts. Jansen was a GREAT tackle until injuries just derailed his career. I think we might be a little shocked how much better he will be. Then again, I could be wrong. Still, want to see if he can regain his form.

Don't know where you're getting that $8 million from. It seems like that's a bit high. I think I saw around $5 million before the draft from another source and if you count Barnes and Orakpo's contracts that would probably take us down to about $2 million. Also if we had $8 million in cap space I'm sure we would be making more moves than just signing people for the vet min.
Anyways I doubt we'll bring him in. Everybody seems okay with the competition between the guys we got now.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by an23dy

Don't know where you're getting that $8 million from. It seems like that's a bit high. I think I saw around $5 million before the draft from another source and if you count Barnes and Orakpo's contracts that would probably take us down to about $2 million. Also if we had $8 million in cap space I'm sure we would be making more moves than just signing people for the vet min.
Anyways I doubt we'll bring him in. Everybody seems okay with the competition between the guys we got now.

It's from this website:
http://www.thewarpath.net/WarpathRedskinsCap.htm
8.8 mil...but you are correct in that Orakpo and Barnes have not been signed yet. Don't think Barnes is going to hurt us much, but Orakpo will.

[John Denny]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Just an FYI, we have over 8 mil in cap space.

I do not think an often injured player is someone we should be looking at. He had a season ending injury last year, and we have had enough of that.

All the haters on Jansen...I am one of the few that thinks he might be able to make a solid comeback this year after a year of strengthening and conditioning his injured parts. Jansen was a GREAT tackle until injuries just derailed his career. I think we might be a little shocked how much better he will be. Then again, I could be wrong. Still, want to see if he can regain his form.

I think Jansen will play better this year too. He's in better shape (his lateral movement is probably a lot better now that he's down to 295) and is a year removed from a season-ending injury. I'll bet he comes away with the RT job with Bridges backing him up. Heyer will backup Samuels.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by John Denny

I think Jansen will play better this year too. He's in better shape (his lateral movement is probably a lot better now that he's down to 295) and is a year removed from a season-ending injury. I'll bet he comes away with the RT job with Bridges backing him up. Heyer will backup Samuels.

Absolutely. He might surprise. Certainly hope so. I've always liked him.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Jones was due to make $3M this year in Cincy. He will not be signing for chump change wherever he goes.


There is something strange going on here. Levi Jones can still play; he is not old and he's not wracked with injuries. He does not have the reputation for being "felonious". So, why are the Bengals - - not a team with a real deep roster - - so anxious to draft his replacement and move him out?


Is there something dark here? Or is this just an example of why the Bengals are the Bengals?

Money. In the NFL, the fact that contracts are not guaranteed is secondary to the fact that if you have talent you keep it, usually. The Bengals however, feel that their 3 million could be better spent elsewhere or pocketed. So though Levi Jones has value to his team, the team feels like they can spend .8 million and get the same effect. So he's out.

I think of Levi Jones as the perfect backup LT. Injury prone, but he can come off the bench if Samuels gets hurt, so the fact that he's injury prone doesn't matter. Then, we can go with anyone at RT.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Money. In the NFL, the fact that contracts are not guaranteed is secondary to the fact that if you have talent you keep it, usually. The Bengals however, feel that their 3 million could be better spent elsewhere or pocketed. So though Levi Jones has value to his team, the team feels like they can spend .8 million and get the same effect. So he's out.

I think of Levi Jones as the perfect backup LT. Injury prone, but he can come off the bench if Samuels gets hurt, so the fact that he's injury prone doesn't matter. Then, we can go with anyone at RT.

What? The Bengals being cheap? Again?

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Money. In the NFL, the fact that contracts are not guaranteed is secondary to the fact that if you have talent you keep it, usually. The Bengals however, feel that their 3 million could be better spent elsewhere or pocketed. So though Levi Jones has value to his team, the team feels like they can spend .8 million and get the same effect. So he's out.

I think of Levi Jones as the perfect backup LT. Injury prone, but he can come off the bench if Samuels gets hurt, so the fact that he's injury prone doesn't matter. Then, we can go with anyone at RT.

Me too...but would you play him at RT while Samuels was healthy or just let him ride the bench?

...btw what is the extent of Jones' injury history? Is he on the downward slide or did he just hit a rough patch.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Me too...but would you play him at RT while Samuels was healthy or just let him ride the bench?

...btw what is the extent of Jones' injury history? Is he on the downward slide or did he just hit a rough patch.

There's not enough information really to say whether he's going to be injury prone until he retires or if he's just been down for the last three seasons, but that's a rough trend.

Thusly, I wouldn't even play him at RT if we got him. I would put him right behind Samuels on the depth chart, and hope he never, ever has to see the field. If he does, then you have a guy in there who doesn't at all need a reduced playbook. Unlike someone else I can think of.

I think we're better off at RT now than we were last year easily, but OT remains a need if only because you can't assume any player is injury proof...especially a guy coming off of injury.

[nimbh2]

another often injured player i do not think its a good idea stabilty is what we need someone who can play a whole season that is our problem now.

[CRedskinsRule]

I would like him here. But reading that link, I think I still am most upset that we made a crummy decision w/last years practice squad.

[nimbh2]

missing 17 games in three years is wracked to me

[nimbh2]

he was to make 3 million this year so he has been on the bench for a third of it that is a million to sit watch hell sign me up lol

[FRPLG]

This is what I meant when I said finding a sutiable stop gap at RT was easier than finding a rush end. Adequate to plus OLmen come around somewhat regularly. it's why i like the Orakpo drafting and wasn't terribly disappointedwe didn't take Oher. A guy like Jones has to be looked at for us. But I don't think he brings a lot more than what we already have. If he costs us a dime more than any of the other guys i say no.

[MTK]

I'd be surprised if he's not on the Skins radar. Vet min only given his injury history.