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Old 05-07-2009, 09:35 PM   #1
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Re: Zorn: 'We're Further Ahead' This Year

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Yes, because it's in the thread title. The Skins always do this hyping shit year in year out and I'm happy to shoot this "happy-hype-talk" down year in year out. I have always been consistent with my "show me, don't tell me" sentiments...if you don't already know you better ask somebody.
So calling the young WR's "sad" is "hyping shit"? Zorn's comments seemed to me to be a pretty honest and straightforward assessment.
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So calling the young WR's "sad" is "hyping shit"? Zorn's comments seemed to me to be a pretty honest and straightforward assessment.
That's one of the things I really like about him. You're not gonna get a whole lot of BS.
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Old 05-08-2009, 01:22 AM   #3
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So calling the young WR's "sad" is "hyping shit"? Zorn's comments seemed to me to be a pretty honest and straightforward assessment.

Don't play these games with me son, I won't stand for it.
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Don't play these games with me son, I won't stand for it.
He isn't your son...no one here is and your dismissive attitude isn't cute or well liked by many. I tend to agree with you about the comments but the way you talk AT people is old.
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He isn't your son...no one here is and your dismissive attitude isn't cute or well liked by many. I tend to agree with you about the comments but the way you talk AT people is old.
Yes sir. Understood.
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Don't play these games with me son, I won't stand for it.
Purely statistically, I am likely older than you, so I could not be your "son."

From the standpoint of logic, ad hominem arguments (where you attack the person, not the argument) are always fallacious. They are always logically bankrupt. Ad hominem arguments also make you look foolish. So please, for the benefit of us both in the future, discuss my views rather than attacking my person.

So, back to the point: How is Zorn's calling the young WR's "sad" in your words "hyping shit?" Or is Zorn more honest than you give him credit for?
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Purely statistically, I am likely older than you, so I could not be your "son."

From the standpoint of logic, ad hominem arguments (where you attack the person, not the argument) are always fallacious. They are always logically bankrupt. Ad hominem arguments also make you look foolish. So please, for the benefit of us both in the future, discuss my views rather than attacking my person.

So, back to the point: How is Zorn's calling the young WR's "sad" in your words "hyping shit?" Or is Zorn more honest than you give him credit for?

You should explore reading article linked to in the first post of the thread. Also, I'm entirely convinced you understand what ad hominem argument is.
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You should explore reading article linked to in the first post of the thread. Also, I'm entirely convinced you understand what ad hominem argument is.
I read the article (the second link is better) or I could not have asked the question. Here is what Zorn said about the young wide receivers:
"I think that's kind of the negative: we have the 'potential'. We've got some young guys, but they haven't really played yet. And that's what we're hoping, is that the 'potential' becomes a reality to what we think they're gonna be. And I'll tell you this: they have the attitude of want-to, and that's part of the battle, and they're also working hard to get it all down, listening to their coach, Stan Hixon, so that they can be in the right place at the right speed with the right cut and then finish it with the catch, and hopefully we'll get some yards after catch as well. So all those things'll be put together, but right now you're right, man: it's just potential. And that's kinda the sad thing about it."

So please answer my question: how is that "hyping shit"?
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I read the article (the second link is better) or I could not have asked the question. Here is what Zorn said about the young wide receivers:
"I think that's kind of the negative: we have the 'potential'. We've got some young guys, but they haven't really played yet. And that's what we're hoping, is that the 'potential' becomes a reality to what we think they're gonna be. And I'll tell you this: they have the attitude of want-to, and that's part of the battle, and they're also working hard to get it all down, listening to their coach, Stan Hixon, so that they can be in the right place at the right speed with the right cut and then finish it with the catch, and hopefully we'll get some yards after catch as well. So all those things'll be put together, but right now you're right, man: it's just potential. And that's kinda the sad thing about it."

So please answer my question: how is that "hyping shit"?
What the above paragraph is saying is: We're amazing team and with all our younger guys on the field we would be even more amazing.


Anywho, both articles support the case for "hyping shit up" and all you could muster is this little paragraph and on top of that you don't seem to be able to read between the lines. He psychologically stuck you dude.
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What the above paragraph is saying is: We're amazing team and with all our younger guys on the field we would be even more amazing.


Anywho, both articles support the case for "hyping *** up" and all you could muster is this little paragraph and on top of that you don't seem to be able to read between the lines. He psychologically stuck you dude.
Reading between the lines often leads to interpreting the given facts the way you want to see them. Zorn is, by all accounts, pretty straight laced and not given to hyping it up. I doubt JZ is implying anything of the sort that you just said.
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Old 05-09-2009, 12:21 PM   #11
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What the above paragraph is saying is: We're amazing team and with all our younger guys on the field we would be even more amazing.


Anywho, both articles support the case for "hyping shit up" and all you could muster is this little paragraph and on top of that you don't seem to be able to read between the lines. He psychologically stuck you dude.
No, that paragraph does not say that. I'm sure that Thomas and Kelly did not take those words as "hyping" them. But since the word "sad" means to you "hyping," from now on I will call you "Sad," and you will know that I am just "hyping" you.

You still have not learned that Zorn is very honest. Unlike other members of the FO, Zorn has a hard time "hyping" anything.

Before you pass out more unintelligent advice, you might want to learn to spell, Mr. Mexcio.
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