Potential Drug Dealer- Advice Needed

[mredskins]

So let me set the stage first then you guys can give me your opinion. I live in a townhouse neighborhood that is mainly middle class. Since my son was born last April I have had many a sleepless nights due to his sleeping habits or lack of. =)

So when you are rocking a baby to sleep each night/day you tend to stare out the window. I keep seeing this one guy always walking through my neighborhood at like every hour of the day/night. This has been going on for a year, maybe longer but I have been seeing him for a year.

This morning I go out to my car at 6 am and guess who is strolling the neighborhood? My best buddy. This time I really watch him almost tail him in my car. I notice he walks out my neighborhood to the main street meets some other guy they have the quick hand shake and then spilt. Keep in mind before I just watch him walk past my house but never really followed him. After I see that go down in my rearview mirror I head back and make sure he sees me and he knows I see him. Then I pull into my neighborhood turn around and pass him again, he throws up his arms with like a "what" look. I am hoping this may scary him off now that he may know someone is catching on.

I feel like I should report this guy to the police but it is probably a waste of time because they will have to catch him in the act. I also don't want to get wrapped up in it in fear of retaliation against my property or god forbids my family.

What would you guys do? He is not an eye sore and I am pretty sure he is someone's adult son in my neighborhood. I basically don't want to start WWIII with this guy but on the same hand I don't want drugs dealt in my neighborhood. Plus in the next year I am most likely moving to a single family house somewhere else in the area. Sadly you can't escape drugs in this country even in the "nice" neighborhoods they are being pushed everywhere, sucks.

Let me also add there are a lot of good kids in my neighborhood that don’t need this going on.

[MTK]

Wouldn't hurt to tip off the cops. Even if nothing comes of it at least you did something about it. It's your neighborhood man, protect it. Especially with a kid I would have no problem calling the police.

[Hog1]

Narc him out!

[Daseal]

mredskin, I think your little driving thing was a little over the top. When you call the cops he knows exactly who called. I don't think you have much evidence right now. By your estimation, I'm a drug dealer. I've been known to take walks at 1am, 2am. Sometimes I take the garbage, sometimes I just want the air.

It's a tough line to walk, but from what you said here I think it's a stretch to assume this guy is a drug dealer. If you followed him more than once, and the same things kept happening, then I'd say go for it. I'm not even sure what Police would do in this situation. They can't just knock on his door and search because you saw him give someone a hand shake.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Daseal

mredskin, I think your little driving thing was a little over the top. When you call the cops he knows exactly who called. I don't think you have much evidence right now. By your estimation, I'm a drug dealer. I've been known to take walks at 1am, 2am. Sometimes I take the garbage, sometimes I just want the air.

It's a tough line to walk, but from what you said here I think it's a stretch to assume this guy is a drug dealer. If you followed him more than once, and the same things kept happening, then I'd say go for it. I'm not even sure what Police would do in this situation. They can't just knock on his door and search because you saw him give someone a hand shake.

I disagree. The best way to prevent crime is to keep your eyes open and report odd behavior. The police may not search the home, but they may tail him for a while and see if they know his aquaintances. If everything is on the up and up and this guy just likes to meander around at odd hours, nothing will come of it. On the other hand, if it turns out he is consorting with known drug dealers, maybe it leads to something bigger. Either way, word gets out that people are watching what goes on in the neighborhood and THAT's the best way to prevent crime.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Daseal

mredskin, I think your little driving thing was a little over the top. When you call the cops he knows exactly who called.

It's highly likely that he's reupping though; there's no reason to give a handshake at that time, but you were pretty dumb to make yourself so obvious. You expect the kid to be intimidated or something? And he'll know who to retaliate against if he chooses to do so. If you're not having issues with broke in cars, more shady people loitering around or whatever just keep your mouth shut. The last thing that you need is a brick through a window, molitov, your car ****ed with, or even harassment.

He could just be picking up a dime bag, or a few pills or something, hell maybe even a lil coke, who knows; not to say that all of that is what you want around you, but keep the peace if at all possible

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

It's highly likely that he's reupping though; there's no reason to give a handshake at that time, but you were pretty dumb to make yourself so obvious. You expect the kid to be intimidated or something? And he'll know who to retaliate against if he chooses to do so. If you're not having issues with broke in cars, more shady people loitering around or whatever just keep your mouth shut. The last thing that you need is a brick through a window, molitov, your car ****ed with, or even harassment.

Ok if everyone had that attuide then the drug dealers would run our neigborhoods. You can't live in fear and all I did was look at him. He lives with his mommy and daddy and sells pot on the side, this is not Scarface. I don't think he is going to cut me up in my bath tub with a chain saw.

Anyways I took an early lunch went to the police station told my story and they were about as excited as Julia Child would be to eat my home made tacos from the box. Basically he is small fry to the cops in my area becasue they have this place called Edgewood in their jursdiaction that is just littered with gangs and drugs. They took my info and alerted the patrol in my area. Oh well I tried. The cop told me to avoid him and would be highly surprised if he did anything becasue the last thing they want is attention. I mean there really is not much they can do at this point. What would be great is if they raided his house like in Point Break when I am cutting the grass but highly unlikley.

[Trample the Elderly]

What do your neighbors have to say about this? Call the police. Even if he's a low baller that doesn't mean he'll not turn on his guy. Cops love getting little fish that lead to the whopper. Why don't you just go out there an confront him, I would. Just make sure you're packing heat. Say, hey listen if your out here selling dope then you need to stop. I called the police and if they don't lock you up I'll take care of you. The cops can't be everywhere at once. They're more of a deterrent than anything. It's up to you to decide what's best for your family. Once he knows that eyes are watching then he'll stop being so open, if he's smart.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

What do your neighbors have to say about this? Call the police. Even if he's a low baller that doesn't mean he'll not turn on his guy. Cops love getting little fish that lead to the whopper. Why don't you just go out there an confront him, I would. Just make sure you're packing heat. Say, hey listen if your out here selling dope then you need to stop. I called the police and if they don't lock you up I'll take care of you. The cops can't be everywhere at once. They're more of a deterrent than anything. It's up to you to decide what's best for your family. Once he knows that eyes are watching then he'll stop being so open, if he's smart.

[BDBohnzie]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

Cops love getting little fish that lead to the whopper

Quoted for truth. He might be small potatoes, but if they figure out who he is and what kind of connections he has, you bet your life that the Cops will make the effort to nail him and use him to go up the chain...

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

What do your neighbors have to say about this? Call the police. Even if he's a low baller that doesn't mean he'll not turn on his guy. Cops love getting little fish that lead to the whopper. Why don't you just go out there an confront him, I would. Just make sure you're packing heat. Say, hey listen if your out here selling dope then you need to stop. I called the police and if they don't lock you up I'll take care of you. The cops can't be everywhere at once. They're more of a deterrent than anything. It's up to you to decide what's best for your family. Once he knows that eyes are watching then he'll stop being so open, if he's smart.

Yeah, make veiled threats. If you're going out there with a gun to scare him, tax him instead.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Ok if everyone had that attuide then the drug dealers would run our neigborhoods. You can't live in fear and all I did was look at him. He lives with his mommy and daddy and sells pot on the side, this is not Scarface. I don't think he is going to cut me up in my bath tub with a chain saw.

Anyways I took an early lunch went to the police station told my story and they were about as excited as Julia Child would be to eat my home made tacos from the box. Basically he is small fry to the cops in my area becasue they have this place called Edgewood in their jursdiaction that is just littered with gangs and drugs. They took my info and alerted the patrol in my area. Oh well I tried. The cop told me to avoid him and would be highly surprised if he did anything becasue the last thing they want is attention. I mean there really is not much they can do at this point. What would be great is if they raided his house like in Point Break when I am cutting the grass but highly unlikley.

So the cops told you the same thing that I did, yet I'm wrong, I fail to see how that works.

I didn't say live in fear and you admitted that you have no reason to fear, your post is so circular I've become dizzy.

Is your neighborhood overrun with dealers? No.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

So the cops told you the same thing that I did, yet I'm wrong, I fail to see how that works.

I didn't say live in fear and you admitted that you have no reason to fear, your post is so circular I've become dizzy.

Is your neighborhood overrun with dealers? No.

No offense dude but I hardly listen to you. I have a general rule on here, if you have been around for just a around a year and have almost 2k post chances are you have diarrhea of the mouth. See EQ for example.

[JoeRedskin]

Don't just call the mainline though. Make an appointment and speak to the District Chief or, if they have one, the community liaison. Try to get a face to face. Let them know that this what you have done and what your suspicions are. If you just call the local district and report it to the desk sergent, nothing will come of it.

[BDBohnzie]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Don't just call the mainline though. Make an appointment and speak to the District Chief or, if they have one, the community liaison. Try to get a face to face. Let them know that this what you have done and what your suspicions are. If you just call the local district and report it to the desk sergent, nothing will come of it.

^^This is solid advice. I know here in Frederick County, they take drug problems very seriously. I'm currently serving on the Grand Jury here...every other Friday from February to the end of August...we'll hear on average 8 presentments each session, of which 4 or more are drug related.

If your local district has a drug enforcement unit, that might be another route to go as well. Give them your description of the person and their patterns, and let them handle it. Who knows? Your guy may have already sold to an undercover or an informant, and not known it.