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Old 05-08-2009, 04:10 PM   #1
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From your fingers to God's eyes. For the record, I agree with you. I expect JC to have a strong year this year with breakout seasons from Thomas and Davis.
I hope for a strong year as well, but this is the same stuff i was hearing last year about a 'JC breakout year". understanding he's changed coaches and offenses several times, however, a QB runs the offense. and we must be better then 16.6 ppg. that is awful. another year like last year and he'll be another teams backup in 2010.
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I hope for a strong year as well, but this is the same stuff i was hearing last year about a 'JC breakout year". understanding he's changed coaches and offenses several times, however, a QB runs the offense. and we must be better then 16.6 ppg. that is awful. another year like last year and he'll be another teams backup in 2010.
I think anyone who was hoping for a breakout year for JC last year was delusional.
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Old 05-08-2009, 05:24 PM   #3
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I think anyone who was hoping for a breakout year for JC last year was delusional.
Last year was his best season as a pro.
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I hope for a strong year as well, but this is the same stuff i was hearing last year about a 'JC breakout year". understanding he's changed coaches and offenses several times, however, a QB runs the offense. and we must be better then 16.6 ppg. that is awful. another year like last year and he'll be another teams backup in 2010.
Leaving aside yards and TD's, JC did have a breakout year in terms of becoming turnover-stingy. Perhaps this year the yards and TD's will come as well.
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Leaving aside yards and TD's, JC did have a breakout year in terms of becoming turnover-stingy. Perhaps this year the yards and TD's will come as well.
He had less picks then in previous years, but i dont think anyone would call it a breakout year by any stretch. Bottom line is we were 28th in the league or so in scoring offense, and that falls mainly on the QB.
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He had less picks then in previous years, but i dont think anyone would call it a breakout year by any stretch. Bottom line is we were 28th in the league or so in scoring offense, and that falls mainly on the QB.
I wouldn't put it on Campbell's shoulders, it goes on the entire offense. I would mainly put it on adapting to new playcalling.
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I wouldn't put it on Campbell's shoulders, it goes on the entire offense. I would mainly put it on adapting to new playcalling.
an offense is typically only as good as its QB...typically.
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an offense is typically only as good as its QB...typically.
If i had to pick one factor (out of the many) that typically determines the success of an offense it would be the offensive line.
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If i had to pick one factor (out of the many) that typically determines the success of an offense it would be the offensive line.
Agreed.
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If i had to pick one factor (out of the many) that typically determines the success of an offense it would be the offensive line.
Hard to argue with that 30gut.
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If i had to pick one factor (out of the many) that typically determines the success of an offense it would be the offensive line.
Ditto.
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He had less picks then in previous years, but i dont think anyone would call it a breakout year by any stretch. Bottom line is we were 28th in the league or so in scoring offense, and that falls mainly on the QB.
Actually, Jason had had a problem with fumbling/ints so yes for that it was a breakout year as Lotus said. You then harped on yards and TDs, which Lotus also said he was not including, but hopes for that part this year. Also, our whole offense stalled at the 50 to 20, and even Zorn acknowledged that that was an area HE was looking to improve his playcalling in. I don't see a redzone stat on pro football reference, but I think our numbers were not below average, we just didn't get there enough.
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Actually, Jason had had a problem with fumbling/ints so yes for that it was a breakout year as Lotus said. You then harped on yards and TDs, which Lotus also said he was not including, but hopes for that part this year. Also, our whole offense stalled at the 50 to 20, and even Zorn acknowledged that that was an area HE was looking to improve his playcalling in. I don't see a redzone stat on pro football reference, but I think our numbers were not below average, we just didn't get there enough.
we were 21st in total yards....thats below average. 28th in scoring....
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we were 21st in total yards....thats below average. 28th in scoring....
CRedskinsRule was talking specifically about the red zone.
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we were 21st in total yards....thats below average. 28th in scoring....
Unfortunately, your knowledge of our offense last year seems to end at this, so color us unconvinced at your argument.
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