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Camp Scrub
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 57
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Re: What must Jim Zorn accomplish this season to keep his job?
If you think Zorn is calling the shots with only two years now as a HC, then you have bumped your head really hard. Main point.....if you continue to change the schemes of a team all the time without letting systems work kinks out and without giving the coaches the tools they need (right players) to get the job done, every coach would fail; not just Zorn. It is obvious that the FO is going in one direction when it comes to adding players to build on than what the offense needs to accomplish.
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Playmaker
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Three Chopt Virginia
Age: 48
Posts: 2,906
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Re: What must Jim Zorn accomplish this season to keep his job?
We've posted about this many times all ready. If it was just about money then we would've had one those big names you mentioned. Snyder has put such a bad coaching cloud over the club that coaches don't want to come here IMO.
They could've gotten Cowher and some other "big name" guys. We were a Cowher kind of team anyway, defensive football that is focused on the run. Money wasn't the issue, it's control. Zorn said so in so-many words when he said he had no choice in picking FAs or in the draft. He might have put his two cents in, but that's it. All of the big name guys are going to want to have the power to steer the club in the direction they feel will allow them to win. I don't think Holmgren would come to a club that just fired Zorn. Cowher probably already turned us down. Shanahan would want the kind of control that he had in Denver. Chucky, eh . . . maybe, maybe not? If they fire Zorn the FO is f'ed up for sure. |
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Living Legend
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Arlington, VA
Posts: 17,584
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Re: What must Jim Zorn accomplish this season to keep his job?
Sorry but there are other teams that will pay him and there are other teams that will give him full contol. A guy like Cowher will never work for Snyder. Neither will Mike H. What happened to the last strong head coach that worked here? Got fired after one year. The only strong HC that can work for Snyder is/was Gibbs.
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Impact Rookie
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Flint,Mi
Posts: 528
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Re: What must Jim Zorn accomplish this season to keep his job?
I say at least give the guy 3 years, according to management he doesn't even have a franchise QB that topped with being a new coach should earn him at least 3 years as long as there is improvement on the previous year. I like Zorn and you have to admire a guy who would take on a D Snyder ran team for his first head coaching gig.
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Playmaker
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 4,575
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Re: What must Jim Zorn accomplish this season to keep his job?
No matter what happens, if Zorn is fired after this season the FO is more screwed-up than we think it is.
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Impact Rookie
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Ellicott City, MD
Posts: 643
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Re: What must Jim Zorn accomplish this season to keep his job?
10-6 or going to the playoffs. Also, the offense would have to be in the top half of the NFL. All of these things, barring massive injuries to our team.
I'll go on the record and say that I think Snyder has improved in terms of his willingness to let coaches build/implement their system/brand here with the Skins. We can all thank Joe Gibbs for that. I think that the FO will give Zorn a minimum of 3 years to make this thing work. I believe that Danny is honestly fond of him. We'll see! |
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Puppy Kicker
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Arlington, Virginia
Age: 43
Posts: 8,341
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Re: What must Jim Zorn accomplish this season to keep his job?
For Jim Zorn to keep his job he MUST show improvement. I'm not saying he needs to win the super bowl, but he needs this team to improve, especially on the offensive end. If we don't average in the 20's point wise -- I think he's gone.
The big names out there will definitely be calling. Unfortunately, I think Snyder would go after Cowher. I simply don't think he's that good of a coach. He had some great teams in Pittsburgh -- he also had some woeful teams. He would be a terrible fit in DC. If we do fire Zorn I would hope for Holmgren (probably wouldn't come after we fire his boy) and Shenehan (I butchered his name, but love him as a coach.)
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Re: What must Jim Zorn accomplish this season to keep his job?
I think its simple. The Redskins have to make the playoffs. The Skins were 8-8 last year and if they won some of the games they should have they would of made it last season. So going into 2009 season I think Snyder wants to see some improvement. The next goal usually for a 8-8 team is trying to make the playoffs. This team does have enough talent to do it if certain players step up and if Zorn gets better as a playcaller. If the Redskins do not make the playoffs I expect a new coach to come in for 2010.
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Hail Raiser
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Age: 53
Posts: 100,038
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Re: What must Jim Zorn accomplish this season to keep his job?
The team has to show progress. I think his job is safe as long as the team doesn't take a major step backwards. If that happens I think it's safe to assume we could be looking at a new HC and QB next year.
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The Starter
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 1,373
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Re: What must Jim Zorn accomplish this season to keep his job?
I hope Zorn can solidify his job this season but if the team regresses then i do think he and JC are gone after the season. If we do go after a new HC i would like to see us go get a OC from N.O or S.D. to fill the spot as HC. both teams are good on offense and do more with less as in terms of talent. Brees is a very good QB but i couldnt name a single WR from the Saints squad yet they led the league in O. and they dont really have a good RB or Oline.
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Kill Devil Hills, N.C.
Posts: 7,570
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Re: What must Jim Zorn accomplish this season to keep his job?
Improvement. A sense that we're on the right track. Competitiveness as a team.
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The Starter
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 1,373
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Re: What must Jim Zorn accomplish this season to keep his job?
I think the Oline will be better this season.
we got Haynesworth and RAK to bolster the passrush We need Thomas,Kelly and Davis to step up this season. I believe Randle EL needsto go. for the money he is making he doesnt produce much IMO.I hear Marko is doing well so far. |
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The Starter
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 1,373
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Re: What must Jim Zorn accomplish this season to keep his job?
PPL act like DS is firing HC's left and right. He brought in Spurrier when he got here,at the time many teams had tried to lure him out of the college ranks.Spurrier resigned and he went back to Gibbs. who re-retired so he brought in Zorn. so its not like he is giving HC's a short leash, they either resign or retire. which cant be put on the owner.
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Most Interesting Man in the World
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Age: 38
Posts: 8,606
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Re: What must Jim Zorn accomplish this season to keep his job?
Yeah I doubt playoffs means anything. What if our D plays amazing and gets a ton of turnovers and our offense struggles; we make it to the second round but lose because we can't score(hm, when has this happened before?). IMO, Zorn gets cannned.
I still think if we don't make the playoffs and our offense is putting up good numbers and JC becomes CONSISTENT then Zorn stays.
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The Starter
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 1,373
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Re: What must Jim Zorn accomplish this season to keep his job?
i dont want a old HC to come in for a 2-3 yr paycheck. if Zorn falters lets get a young hopeful who can stick around. Id like to see Zorn make it but we have to show improvement this season. he has a rep of being a great QB coach and he needs JC to step up and lead this team.
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