Will Jason Campbell return?

[DBUCHANON101]

Bottomline, JC has not done anything to justify being a 1st round pick. He is in the last yr of his contract and was the topic of trade rumors during the off season. Wake up JC and JC faithful,Its time to put up or shut up. I really feel if JC falters early Zorn will have a tough decision to make.

[Monksdown]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

Bottomline, JC has not done anything to justify being a 1st round pick. He is in the last yr of his contract and was the topic of trade rumors during the off season. Wake up JC and JC faithful,Its time to put up or shut up. I really feel if JC falters early Zorn will have a tough decision to make.

I think Zorn was brought in because we needed a QB oriented coach to bring Jason's level of play up to our expectations. So Zorn's eggs are in Jason's basket so to speak. Zorn's 3rd year will totally depend on Jason's play. That being said, i don't think Jason will be pulled early in the season. He'll bust out another mediocre year, and both will be sent packing.

Or they are successful, and we fire Vinny and pick up Holmgren as VP of Football operations.(wishfull thinking)

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

Bottomline, JC has not done anything to justify being a 1st round pick. He is in the last yr of his contract and was the topic of trade rumors during the off season. Wake up JC and JC faithful,Its time to put up or shut up. I really feel if JC falters early Zorn will have a tough decision to make.

I don't think any reasonable "JC faithful" is saying that he is the team's franchise QB and should be kept regardless. We're just telling "JC haters" to let the guy play this year and see what happens. If he does well and lead the team to the playoffs, then he stays (if he and team want). If he doesn't, well you get your wish and he is off the team or he is demoted to being a back up. We argue that this is the first year that JC and the team get to have the same offense and that continuity, and so he should be given a shot this year. What we dislike, is the JC haters is constantly reminding us that they hate him and that he should be gone right now. So as I stated in an earlier post, both JC faithful and haters alike should let the guy play.

[DBUCHANON101]

I think it depends on how Zorns handles the situation. If JC stumbles and Zorn sticks with him no matter how bad he does then yes, he has tied his fate to that of JC's. If JC falters and Zorn goes in a different direction then i think he would have a better chance at keepin his job. If JC does well all is fine, If ot then Zorn has to cut the cord so to speak.

[DBUCHANON101]

I wouldnt call Dan a hater because he wants a return on his investment. he paid this guy 1st round money and he hasnt seen anything to justify the money he paid him.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

I wouldnt call Dan a hater because he wants a return on his investment. he paid this guy 1st round money and he hasnt seen anything to justify the money he paid him.

Well, that was a bit tongue in cheek. You'll get no argument from me saying that the guy wants to win and is willing to throw as much money as need be to make it happen. It's a little disturbing that, 10 years and 4 Gibbs years into his ownership of the team, he still really doesn't have a good idea how to make it happen. But he'll keep trying, that's for sure.

Interestingly enough, if he let Vinny have the final word on all personnel matters, I think our long term prospectus would improve drastically. The fact that we can't really hold Vinny accountable for anything because the final word sometimes comes from Snyder and it sometimes comes from Cerrato and sometimes comes from Zorn, well, that's a weird power structure. And so our decision making is never consistently good, even if as other people mention, the good does seem to outweigh the bad.

[DBUCHANON101]

Ill say that Dan does try and he has gotten better over the years as an owner. He wants to win, and will come out of his own pocket to bring in the best players/coaches that he belives will get this team to a SB. I just hope Zorn can stick around awhile and get his players that fit what he wants to do as a team around him. I do think we should get a more aggressive DC. I have a respect for Blache but the bend but dont break D doesnt win many championships.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

Ill say that Dan does try and he has gotten better over the years as an owner. He wants to win, and will come out of his own pocket to bring in the best players/coaches that he belives will get this team to a SB. I just hope Zorn can stick around awhile and get his players that fit what he wants to do as a team around him. I do think we should get a more aggressive DC. I have a respect for Blache but the bend but dont break D doesnt win many championships.

Zorn's job security will most likely depend on Jason Campbell's success. If Campbell does well, Zorn's job will be secure. If he doesn't, Zorn may be kept, but there will be a ton of speculation by the media (Mike Florio alone will have an orgy of articles regarding Snyder getting Holmgren, Cowher, Chucky, or Shanahan).

[DBUCHANON101]

Yeah i saw on espn.com that one of the writers said Bill Cowher would look good in the Burgandy and Gold next yr. the media says these thigs to stir the pot a yr early and if DS went out and signed Bill on as a HC they would be saying DS is the worst owner in the NFL. the man just cant get a break.

[Missin21]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

Yeah i saw on espn.com that one of the writers said Bill Cowher would look good in the Burgandy and Gold next yr. the media says these thigs to stir the pot a yr early and if DS went out and signed Bill on as a HC they would be saying DS is the worst owner in the NFL. the man just cant get a break.

To be honest, at the rate Bill Cowher wins Championships, he'll never succeed here. It took him 15 years to win a Super Bowl in Pittsburgh. 15 years. Do you really believe that Snyder or this impatient fanbase, as it has become, would allow such failure? I certainly don't. Names mean nothing around here. Win now is our motto. If you don't, we'll replace you with someone *cough cough* who will. :yeahright

[DBUCHANON101]

Regardless of how JC does id like to see Zorn stick around just for the simple fact that im tired of havin a new HC every 3 yrs. If he does go we need to bring in a young prospect. We dodged a bullet already, you know we interviewed Josh McDaniels last yr? WHEW. lol. not sayin he wont be good in the long run but he hasnt started out very well

[DBUCHANON101]

I admit i wsnt crazy about the Zorn hire, but im givin the man a chance to prove himself. but i dont want a shanahan,cowher,holmgren as a HC, they would be a temp HC lookin for one last check before they leave the game for good. so if we do lose Zorn we need to do it right and get a young hopeful and let him bring in his own staff.

[Skins4L]

its retarted how Danny Snyder just watched the Broncos organization turn into a zoo over the same type of QB controversy.

Then he created the same type of controversy for us.

Thanks Dan. Way to get Jason ready.

i hope Campbell stays. i could give a shit what the naysayers think at this point.

do i think hell return?? IDK.

[DBUCHANON101]

HANK YOU NFL NETWORK!!!!
They broke down film on JC and in the games they showed it was 3rd and long situations.JC had protection each time and EACH TIME went to the check down route that was 5-7 yards short of the 1st down. One play showed 3 different wrs in one on one coverage and he wouldnt push the ball downfield. JC plays scared and thats why he went without throwin a int for half the season. HIS AVG THROW ON 3RD DOWN WAS LIKE 5.7 YARDS.and he had one of the worst comp %'s on 3rd down. PPL wanted to question Zorns playcalling but we had WR's deep and open and he took the easy way out. Thats why ppl are calling for a change,thats why ppl are calling for Collins or Brennan

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

HANK YOU NFL NETWORK!!!!
They broke down film on JC and in the games they showed it was 3rd and long situations.JC had protection each time and EACH TIME went to the check down route that was 5-7 yards short of the 1st down. One play showed 3 different wrs in one on one coverage and he wouldnt push the ball downfield. JC plays scared and thats why he went without throwin a int for half the season. HIS AVG THROW ON 3RD DOWN WAS LIKE 5.7 YARDS.and he had one of the worst comp %'s on 3rd down. PPL wanted to question Zorns playcalling but we had WR's deep and open and he took the easy way out. Thats why ppl are calling for a change,thats why ppl are calling for Collins or Brennan

Here is the link btw. I think that is what I said like six pages ago, but I'm also saying give him a second year in the offense. The first example was clearly a bad read; the second you had a saftey shading over the top and I think that was Devin Thomas so I wonder what role that played (Cutler probably would have made that throw); the third doesn't look like there were a whole lot of options but he could have taken a shot. Clearly he needs to push the ball more down the field. It would be nice if there was some way for fans to get coaches tape so we could look at some of these things ourselves.

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