Will Jason Campbell return?

[Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor]

I have to agree with you. Even if Jason has a productive season he needs to go. He is not a west coast type of quarterback. Colt Brennan is that type of quarterback but he may not be ready yet. Next year or even this year he should get that shot. Is not like I don't like him I just believe that we will need a west coast type of qb to get this offense clicking. If Jim Zorn wants to stay and not get fired he better get his quarterback quick.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor

I have to agree with you. Even if Jason has a productive season he needs to go. He is not a west coast type of quarterback. Colt Brennan is that type of quarterback but he may not be ready yet. Next year or even this year he should get that shot. Is not like I don't like him I just believe that we will need a west coast type of qb to get this offense clicking. If Jim Zorn wants to stay and not get fired he better get his quarterback quick.

Even if he has a productive season he needs to go? Really?

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor

I have to agree with you. Even if Jason has a productive season he needs to go. He is not a west coast type of quarterback. Colt Brennan is that type of quarterback but he may not be ready yet. Next year or even this year he should get that shot. Is not like I don't like him I just believe that we will need a west coast type of qb to get this offense clicking. If Jim Zorn wants to stay and not get fired he better get his quarterback quick.

What is a West Coast type of quarterback? Seriously. And how is Colt Brennan that QB and not JC? I mean, Cambpell is big, strong, mobile, and has a huge arm capable of making every throw. Seems to me he could fit in any system. It's not like he's a Manning/Marino type statue in the pocket. What is JC lacking that Colt has that supposedly makes him a "West Coast QB?"

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by GMScud

What is a West Coast type of quarterback? Seriously. And how is Colt Brennan that QB and not JC? I mean, Cambpell is big, strong, mobile, and has a huge arm capable of making every throw. Seems to me he could fit in any system. It's not like he's a Manning/Marino type statue in the pocket. What is JC lacking that Colt has that supposedly makes him a "West Coast QB?"

Crazy, unquantifiable and ultimately untraceable intangibles.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Crazy, unquantifiable and ultimately untraceable intangibles.

Wrong, they are quantifiable:

1. His name; COLT = Gunslinger, fast, dynamic, confident.

2. He wears a COOOOOL visor and full leg spandex in warm weather.

3. He set every college passing record known to man, and broke all of Timmy Chang's.

4. He wears # 5, same as Heath Shuler.

5. I'm pretty sure he can use telekenisis to make the ball curve around defenders into WRs hands.

Need I say more.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Wrong, they are quantifiable:

1. His name; COLT = Gunslinger, fast, dynamic, confident.

2. He wears a COOOOOL visor and full leg spandex in warm weather.

3. He set every college passing record known to man, and broke all of Timmy Chang's.

4. He wears # 5, same as Heath Shuler.

5. I'm pretty sure he can use telekenisis to make the ball curve around defenders into WRs hands.

Need I say more.

Quantify telekinesis...on the full leg spandex scale!

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Wrong, they are quantifiable:

1. His name; COLT = Gunslinger, fast, dynamic, confident.

2. He wears a COOOOOL visor and full leg spandex in warm weather.

3. He set every college passing record known to man, and broke all of Timmy Chang's.

4. He wears # 5, same as Heath Shuler.

5. I'm pretty sure he can use telekenisis to make the ball curve around defenders into WRs hands.

Need I say more.

Telekenisis, f'ing brilliant!! I wish I had been clever enough to make this post.

Really, I think a large part of "Colt Madness" is b/c of his way cool QB name... Colt... I just like saying it... Colt, Colt, Colt, Colt, Colt.... mmmmmmmmmmmmm.

[irish]

Originally Posted by GMScud

What is a West Coast type of quarterback? Seriously. And how is Colt Brennan that QB and not JC? I mean, Cambpell is big, strong, mobile, and has a huge arm capable of making every throw. Seems to me he could fit in any system. It's not like he's a Manning/Marino type statue in the pocket. What is JC lacking that Colt has that supposedly makes him a "West Coast QB?"

I always hear about how big & strong JC's arm is but most of the time I see him throw the long ball the WR has to either stop or slow down and wait for the ball to arrive. Maybe I'm missing something but that doesnt sound like a big arm to me.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by irish

I always hear about how big & strong JC's arm is but most of the time I see him throw the long ball the WR has to either stop or slow down and wait for the ball to arrive. Maybe I'm missing something but that doesnt sound like a big arm to me.

You're missing something.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by GMScud

You're missing something.

As usual.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by irish

I always hear about how big & strong JC's arm is but most of the time I see him throw the long ball the WR has to either stop or slow down and wait for the ball to arrive. Maybe I'm missing something but that doesnt sound like a big arm to me.

Which plays (last year preferably) do you refer to?

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by irish

I always hear about how big & strong JC's arm is but most of the time I see him throw the long ball the WR has to either stop or slow down and wait for the ball to arrive. Maybe I'm missing something but that doesnt sound like a big arm to me.

Agree with GMScud. I remember JC over-throwing some deep balls or being too far inside/outside, but don't remember any under-thrown passes.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Agree with GMScud. I remember JC over-throwing some deep balls or being too far inside/outside, but don't remember any under-thrown passes.

He overthrew mid-range balls but almost never deep ones. Its seems like every bomb to Moss, Moss has to slow down, turn around and sort of wait for the ball to get there. I kept thinking that they needed to adjust the WR routes to not out-run JC's arm.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by irish

He overthrew mid-range balls but almost never deep ones. Its seems like every bomb to Moss, Moss has to slow down, turn around and sort of wait for the ball to get there. I kept thinking that they needed to adjust the WR routes to not out-run JC's arm.

I remember quite a few deep ball overthrows too. I remember thinking "Damn, he out threw Santana at a full sprint". Unlike GTripp, I do not have a photographic memory. I do distinctly remember having the thought though. Also, I have seen quotes from at least two offensive guys indicating JC's arm strength. One was along the lines of "With JC's arm, we ought to throwing it deep 3 or 4 times a game". That one I think was R. Thomas but not sure. The other was a simple "We (the WR's) aren't going to outrun JC's arm". I am pretty sure that one was ARE.

Quite frankly, other than by you, I have never seen it suggested that JC's arm was anything other than very powerful.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor

I have to agree with you. Even if Jason has a productive season he needs to go. He is not a west coast type of quarterback. Colt Brennan is that type of quarterback but he may not be ready yet. Next year or even this year he should get that shot. Is not like I don't like him I just believe that we will need a west coast type of qb to get this offense clicking. If Jim Zorn wants to stay and not get fired he better get his quarterback quick.

I know I should "just walk away", but here we go again.....

Yes, even though JC's most productive season in college was in a WCO system ???? Even though he was being discussed as a Pro Bowl QB and even MVP in the first half of the season ????

Colt played in a WCO at Hawaii ???? The WCO normally requires a QB with an almost side-arm release, with sub-par arm strength, with little experience under center, and questionable decision making. Colt hasn't started a PRE-SEASON game yet. The NFL is a much different ball-game than the WAC. I don't see Colt beating out Collins for # 2.

C'mon you're throwing out the same tired mis-statements about JC. Bottom line is he improved his QB rating over 7 points from '07 to '08, with a worse OL than '07 and not much help at WR. If he does the same this year, he'll have a QB rating over 90, which is pretty darn good.