Redskins Win In Appeals Court

[steveo395]

Why do people keep suing the Redskins for their name? Who really cares. Is it really going to make these peoples lives any better if there is no team named the Redskins anymore? If somebody really gets offended that easily I think they have bigger problems.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by steveo395

Why do people keep suing the Redskins for their name? Who really cares. Is it really going to make these peoples lives any better if there is no team named the Redskins anymore? If somebody really gets offended that easily I think they have bigger problems.

I really agree with you.

Some people just want to take trivial issues and try to impose their beliefs on them to make it seem like they've made a some kind of impact on the world around them.

If you are that put out by the name of the team then I suggest you don't cheer for them. It's a much cheaper solution and I won't have to have your beliefs imposed on me.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

I really agree with you.

Some people just want to take trivial issues and try to impose their beliefs on them to make it seem like they've made a some kind of impact on the world around them.

If you are that put out by the name of the team then I suggest you don't cheer for them. It's a much cheaper solution and I won't have to have your beliefs imposed on me.

NO, not close!
To many Native Americans ...the word Redskin ...has the same connotation as the "N" word does for African Americans ,to them it's not trivial.........not by a long shot!

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Giantone

NO, not close!
To many Native Americans ...the word Redskin ...has the same connotation as the "N" word does for African Americans ,to them it's not trivial.........not by a long shot!

To many it's not a big deal

'Redskins' mascot acceptable, poll says - NFC East- nbcsports.msnbc.com

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

To many it's not a big deal

'Redskins' mascot acceptable, poll says - NFC East- nbcsports.msnbc.com

I understand that but to a growing number it is.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Giantone

I understand that but to a growing number it is.

Can we see your research?

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

Can we see your research?

YouTube - Redskins-A 500 Year Hate Crime (quick...

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by Giantone

NO, not close!
To many Native Americans ...the word Redskin ...has the same connotation as the "N" word does for African Americans ,to them it's not trivial.........not by a long shot!

In our ultra-sensitive world it is natural to assume this, but take the Florida Seminoles for example. Same type of thing. AND many whites get all crazy about sueing them to change, /trivializing, and degrading Native Americans, etcs.
Last year I heard one of the heads of the Seminole Nation answer questions on the matter. Although the white interviewer tried.....desperately to enrage the Seminole leader on the issue. The NA's response was "I personally am proud to have our name thought of in such high regard. I consider it a complement that so many non NA's would consider it so"
Oh well.............

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by Giantone

NO, not close!
To many Native Americans ...the word Redskin ...has the same connotation as the "N" word does for African Americans ,to them it's not trivial.........not by a long shot!

If your living in squalor on some Indian Reservation, the name and trademarks of a football team 1000 miles away are the very definition of trivial. Non-trivial things might include food, clean water, medicine, shelter, etc.

[bigm29]

Originally Posted by steveo395

Why do people keep suing the Redskins for their name? Who really cares. Is it really going to make these peoples lives any better if there is no team named the Redskins anymore? If somebody really gets offended that easily I think they have bigger problems.

Same applies to the N word. who really cares... get over it

Originally Posted by bigm29

Same applies to the N word. who really cares... get over it

Thats kinda the problem. Just like the N word is a racist remark towards blacks the word Redskin is a racist remark towards Indians. If you were a Indian living in Washington DC are you telling me you wouldnt be offended at Redskin fans wearing t-shirts and caps that say Redskins? It would be like a Africian-American living in DC and seeing the N word on t-shirts and hats.

Now when I say this im just giving a different point of view. I know Redskin fans respect and honor Indians. We all wear our Burgundy & Gold in pride. Im happy we won another case that lets us keep the name Redskins, logo, etc. Im just giving a different point of view from the other side. If I was a Indian I would probably be offended in todays society seeing the word Redskins as a team of a US Pro Football Franchise.

I know not all Indians care about the name but I can understand the other point of view of the Indians that do.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by Brian Orakpo

Thats kinda the problem. Just like the N word is a racist remark towards blacks the word Redskin is a racist remark towards Indians. If you were a Indian living in Washington DC are you telling me you wouldnt be offended at Redskin fans wearing t-shirts and caps that say Redskins? It would be like a Africian-American living in DC and seeing the N word on t-shirts and hats.

I know not all Indians care about the name but I can understand the other point of view of the Indians that do.

The Redskins are a private entity. Things don't have to change just because it offends some people. If the Redskins were a government body then by all means have at it and change anything you like to suit everybody.

Being a private company the Redskins aren't obligated to please every person. It's obviously is not hurting them financially because FedEx is sold out until 3026.

If the American Indians have such a problem with the name then please don't give the Redskins any patronage, including bringing attention to the team with various lawsuits.

The word "Redskin" only gets said more when your lawsuits are broadcast on national television.

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

The Redskins are a private entity. Things don't have to change just because it offends some people. If the Redskins were a government body then by all means have at it and change anything you like to suit everybody.

Being a private company the Redskins aren't obligated to please every person. It's obviously is not hurting them financially because FedEx is sold out until 3026.

If the American Indians have such a problem with the name then please don't give the Redskins any patronage, including bringing attention to the team with various lawsuits.

The word "Redskin" only gets said more when your lawsuits are broadcast on national television.

Yeah I can see your point. I think both sides have valid points. The Redskins havent done anything that would be considered racist since GPM owned the team. The Redskins organization honors Indians imo and means no disrespect. On the other hand I do see what Indians are saying about the team name, logo, etc.

[Giantone]

Did changing the name from the Bullits to the Wizards hurt the team?

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Did changing the name from the Bullits to the Wizards hurt the team?

Not sure. You would have to ask the owner if there was any revinue lost from changing the name and colors. I prefered the "Bullets" name and colors more. I have not purchased anything Wizards related.