Rank the NFC East teams position by position....

[skinsfan69]

[quote=Brian Orakpo;558453]Looking at the Redskins, Cowboys, Giants, and Eagles projected lineups as of today how would you rank these teams 1-4 position by position?

Heres my rankings....

QB - 1. Eagles 2. Cowboys 3. Giants 4. Redskins
I still think McNabb is the best QB in the NFC East. Romo is too up and down to be rated ahead of McNabb but he is better than both Manning and Campbell. I gave Eli a slight edge over Campbell just because of his playoff experience and SB ring. I do think Campbell can move up on this list if he can play well in a contract year.

RB - 1. Cowboys 2. Redskins 3. Eagles 4. Giants
Its really hard to rank the NFC East RBs. All four teams have talent and you could very easily put the Giants at #1. I put the Boys at the top because of their three headed monster of Barber, Jones, and Choice. I think the Cowboys will get back to the running game this year and it will be huge for them. I put the Skins at #2 because of Portis. When hes healthy and the offensive line shows a pulse hes probably one of the top 3 backs in the game. The combo of Westbrook and McCoy got the edge over Jacobs/Bradshaw/Andre Brown. I do think Andre Brown in a couple years will be a pretty good RB though.

WR/TE - 1. Eagles 2. Cowboys 3. Redskins 4. Giants
The Eagles get the top spot here because I think their trio of WRs Jackson/Curits/Maclin will be very explosive this year. I also like Celek as a TE who can make some plays. I think hes better than most people think. I put the Cowboys at 2 over the Redskins because I think their WR core is a little better. They both have a nice pair of TEs Witten/Bennett and Cooley/Davis and solid #1s Moss and Roy Dub. I just believe the progression of Thomas and Kelly right now cant match the play of players like Patrick Crayton and Miles Austin. I have the Giants at 4 but in a couple years they will be #1. Young talent alone in the draft in Nicks, Barden, and Beckum should be huge for the Giants down the road. The problem with the Giants is their lack of a #1 WR.

OL - 1. Eagles 2. Cowboys 3. Giants 4. Redskins
I love the additions the Eagles made to their offensive line this offseason adding Stacy Andrews and Jason Peters. The Cowboys have a very solid offensive line as do the Giants. I put the Skins at 4th just because of injuries that have occured yearly and the hole at RT.

DL - 1. Giants 2. Redskins 3. Cowboys 4. Eagles
I give the edge to the Giants with all the talent on their line. Osi, Tuck, Canty, Kiwanuka, Robbins, Cofield, Bernard, and Alford. You could build two defensive lines and be effective with that talent. The Redskins finally upgraded their defensive line with the additions of Haynesworth and Orakpo. The Cowboys are also very solid with Ratliff in the middle and Spears/Igor at the two end spots. The Eagles are at 4 but they still have alot of talent and the #4 ranking doesnt do them justice.

LB - 1. Cowboys 2. Giants 3. Redskins 4. Eagles
The Cowboys with Ware and Co. get the top spot. The Giants made some nice additions with Boley and Sintim. The Redskins have a hole at SLB but Fletcher is one of the top MLB in the game. The Eagles have solid LBs that do their job but I rate them 4th among LBs in the NFC East.

DB - 1. Redskins 2. Eagles 3. Cowboys 4. Giants
The Redskins have a very good defensive backfield with Rogers, Hall, Smoot, Landry, and Horton. The Eagles have a nice trio of CBs in Samuel, Brown and Hobbs. They lost Dawkins but still have solid Ss in Mikell and Demps. The Cowboys improved alot with the additions of draft picks DeAngelo Smith and Mike Mickens (who was a steal) at CB and Sensabaugh at S. Add that to Newman, Jenkins, Scandrick, and Hamlin and the Cowboys have nice talent and depth in the defensive backfield. The Giants have a nice pair of CBs in Ross and Webster and a nice young S in Kenny Phillips but they are 4th on my list.

SpT - 1. Cowboys 2. Giants 3. Eagles 4. Redskins
The Cowboys easily have the best SpT with players like Folk and McBriar. The Giants are solid with players like Tynes and Feagles. The Eagles could have found a nice kicker who could unseat Akers in Sam Swank. The Redskins are last with big question marks at kicker and returner.

HC - 1. Eagles 2. Giants 3. Redskins 4. Cowboys
The Eagles and Giants both have very good coaches in Reid and Coughlin who get the most out of their players. The Skins and Boys both have coaches who are on the hot seat imo in Zorn and Phillips.

OVERALL - 1. Eagles 2. Cowboys 3. Redskins 4. Giants
The Eagles up and down the board have enough talent to get to yet another NFC Championship Game. The Cowboys and Redskins both are teams who could make the playoffs. I think it will come down to QB play and coaching for them. The Giants have enough talent but I just see a couple question marks that might slow them down this year.[/quote]

The Giants have owned us the last few years. I have no idea how you have them 4th. They're a better team then us right now. Period.

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

The Giants have owned us the last few years. I have no idea how you have them 4th. They're a better team then us right now. Period.

The NFC East will be a 4 team race once again this year. Almost any order will look good to some and bad to others. For some reason I just dont like the Giants as much as the other 3 teams in the NFC East.

The Giants may have owned us last year (I dont see how they could of owned us in 2007 since we should of swept them) but even then they really didnt do anything special. The Skins offense just couldnt get it going.

I expect the Skins to be better this year in Zorns 2nd season calling the plays. I also see the Skins defense being better this year with the additions of Haynesworth and Orakpo. I think the Giants will have a harder time scoring this year without Burress and Ward. Those are the main reasons why I have the Skins at 3 and the Giants at 4.

Its just a prediction on my part though and you very easily could be right.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Brian Orakpo

I expect the Skins to be better this year in Zorns 2nd season calling the plays. I also see the Skins defense being better this year with the additions of Haynesworth and Orakpo. I think the Giants will have a harder time scoring this year without Burress and Ward. Those are the main reasons why I have the Skins at 3 and the Giants at 4.

For some reason though I have a good (bad for us) feeling about Nicks. Sure the guy has a reputation as a prick but he seems like the type of player on the field that could succeed there. Plus he has a guy like Coughlin to keep him in line.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Brian Orakpo

The NFC East will be a 4 team race once again this year. Almost any order will look good to some and bad to others. For some reason I just dont like the Giants as much as the other 3 teams in the NFC East.

The Giants may have owned us last year (I dont see how they could of owned us in 2007 since we should of swept them) but even then they really didnt do anything special. The Skins offense just couldnt get it going.
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Opinions ....everyone has them,...maybe you should have swept the Giants but ya didn't .I'm trying to understand ....this year hasn't been played so we base our opinions on the last season played,correct,yet the Giants won the divison and had one of the best O lines in the league yet you rank them third ,2 running backs over 1000 yards and we are the worst RB team in your opinion.Romo has'nt won crap and yet you put Eli behind Romo,the only thing I will agree with you on is our WR's and DB's,basicly the rest is .........strickly opinion.

[Giantone]

QB) Eagles/Giants/Campbell/Romo

RB) Giants,/Skins-Eagles/cowboys

OL)Giants /Eagle/Cowboys/Skins

WR) Skins/Cowboys/Giants/Eagles

TE) Cowboys/Giants/Skin/Eagles

Punter) Giants/Cowboys/Skins/Eagles

PK) Giants/Eagles/Skins/Cowboys

DL) Giants/Cowboys/Eagles/Skins

LB)Cowboys,Eagles/Giants/Skins

DB) Skins,Eagles/Giants/Cowboys

Safety)Eagles/Skins/Cowboys/Giants

Coaching) Reid/Coughlin/Phillips/Zorn

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by Giantone

WR) Skins/Cowboys/Giants/Eagles

Oh boy....did you just rank the Skins WR the top in the NFC east?
you are obviously not a redskins fan...nor have you watched them enough to realize our issues

[pick-ups]

QB-Eagles/Giants/Cowboys/Redskins(Manning maybe the least talented,but has gotten it done for one post-season)
RB-Cowboys/Eagles/Redskins/Giants(Cowboys are the deepest and the Giants are last because I think that the real strength is the O-Line)
WR-Eagles/Redskins/Cowboys/Giants
TE-Cowboys/Redskins/Giants/Eagles
OL-Giants/Eagles/Cowboys/Redskins
DL-Giants/Redskins/Eagles/Cowboys
LB-Cowboys/Eagles/Giants/Redskins
CB-Eagles/Redskins/Cowboys/Giants
S-Redskins/Eagles/Giants/Cowboys
ST-Eagles/Cowboys/Giants/Redskins

These are ranking positions and do not for the most part equate into who is the best team and these will of course change as the season takes shape.
Each team has their share of question marks,but the division as a whole is the best in the league(from top to bottom).

Originally Posted by pick-ups

QB-Eagles/Giants/Cowboys/Redskins
RB-Cowboys/Eagles/Redskins/Giants
WR-Eagles/Redskins/Cowboys/Giants
TE-Cowboys/Redskins/Giants/Eagles
OL-Giants/Eagles/Cowboys/Redskins
DL-Giants/Redskins/Eagles/Cowboys
LB-Cowboys/Eagles/Giants/Redskins
CB-Eagles/Redskins/Cowboys/Giants
S-Redskins/Eagles/Giants/Cowboys
ST-Eagles/Cowboys/Giants/Redskins

Pretty solid rankings for a Eagle fan.

Gtripp and Paintrain's rankings were also well thought out and very nice imo.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

Oh boy....did you just rank the Skins WR the top in the NFC east?
you are obviously not a redskins fan...nor have you watched them enough to realize our issues

Who in the division has fewer questions at the WR position than we do?

Here are the top 3 returning WR for each team in the division from last year:
NYG-Smith (57 catches), Hixon (43 catches), Moss (12 catches) total 5 TD
Philly-Jackson (62 catches), Curtis (33 catches), Baskett (33 catches) total 7 TD
Dallas-Crayton (39 catches), R. Williams (19 catches), Austin (13 catches) total 8 TD
Wash-Moss (79 catches), Randle-El (53 catches), Thomas (15 catches) total 10 TD

NYG and Dallas are replacing their #1 WR (NYG is replacing #1 and #2) and the NYG and Eagles are counting on rookie WR to come in immediately and contribute. To me it's not really even close.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Who in the division has fewer questions at the WR position than we do?

Fewer questions? Everyone. Our weakness at WR is not that we don't have skilled players at the position, it's that we have no idea where we can expect the production to come from this year.

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Who in the division has fewer questions at the WR position than we do?

Here are the top 3 returning WR for each team in the division from last year:
NYG-Smith (57 catches), Hixon (43 catches), Moss (12 catches) total 5 TD
Philly-Jackson (62 catches), Curtis (33 catches), Baskett (33 catches) total 7 TD
Dallas-Crayton (39 catches), R. Williams (19 catches), Austin (13 catches) total 8 TD
Wash-Moss (79 catches), Randle-El (53 catches), Thomas (15 catches) total 10 TD

NYG and Dallas are replacing their #1 WR (NYG is replacing #1 and #2) and the NYG and Eagles are counting on rookie WR to come in immediately and contribute. To me it's not really even close.

I understand your reasoning and it could be spot on. The only question I have is do you think Maclin can play the slot? With DeSean Jackson playing well last year and Curtis now healthy putting Maclin in the slot makes each player more explosive on offense. I dont think it will be too hard for Maclin to come in and play the slot WR role and make a impact.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Giantone

QB) Eagles/Giants/Campbell/Romo

RB) Giants,/Skins-Eagles/cowboys

OL)Giants /Eagle/Cowboys/Skins

WR) Skins/Cowboys/Giants/Eagles

TE) Cowboys/Giants/Skin/Eagles

Punter) Giants/Cowboys/Skins/Eagles

PK) Giants/Eagles/Skins/Cowboys

DL) Giants/Cowboys/Eagles/Skins

LB)Cowboys,Eagles/Giants/Skins

DB) Skins,Eagles/Giants/Cowboys

Safety)Eagles/Skins/Cowboys/Giants

Coaching) Reid/Coughlin/Phillips/Zorn

You think the Skins have the worst D-line in the division (umm, Haynesworth?) and the Giants in Kevin Boss have a better TE situation than we do?? That's the funniest thing I've seen all day. Cooley is 3x the TE Kevin Boss is 8 days a week.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by GMScud

You think the Skins have the worst D-line in the division (umm, Haynesworth?) and the Giants in Kevin Boss have a better TE situation than we do?? That's the funniest thing I've seen all day. Cooley is 3x the TE Kevin Boss is 8 days a week.

Ok, I'll go over it one more time ,my opinions on these picks is based on last year since this year hasn't been played yet.As for Haynsworth ...who knows if he'll be any good in the NFC East or not ...he'll be going against much better O lines.As for Cooley ...I already said he's a great TE but Boss did play better last year less fumbles and better blocking.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Ok, I'll go over it one more time ,my opinions on these picks is based on last year since this year hasn't been played yet.As for Haynsworth ...who knows if he'll be any good in the NFC East or not ...he'll be going against much better O lines.As for Cooley ...I already said he's a great TE but Boss did play better last year less fumbles and better blocking.

But, as I think it's been said, these rankings are about how they are constituted now, not at the end of last season. The whole point of the discussion is to get thoughts of current rosters. Last season is done.

Was Boss in the ProBowl? Has he been? Not that ProBowl is everything, but I think Cooley is easily recognized as better than Boss.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Ok, I'll go over it one more time ,my opinions on these picks is based on last year since this year hasn't been played yet.As for Haynsworth ...who knows if he'll be any good in the NFC East or not ...he'll be going against much better O lines.As for Cooley ...I already said he's a great TE but Boss did play better last year less fumbles and better blocking.

How did Boss play better? Cooley's blocking was actually better last year than it's been his entire career. I don't get what you think you know on that one.

And you bring up fumbles... Well, Cooley had 50 more catches than Boss last year. So in 83 catches Cooley had 3 fumbles. That means 97% of the time he touched the ball in '08 he didn't fumble. What a horrible thing.

Boss isn't even close to the offensive weapon Chris Cooley is, and his numbers reflect as much. To use a stat in Boss' favor that directly involves touching the football is just silly. Cooley is his daddy. Wake up.

And as far as D-line goes, why do we have to exclude Haynesworth when talking about the Skins? He's a proven stud and he's on our team now. I'm sure Canty crossed your mind when thinking about the Giants D-line. This thread isn't asking us to rank last year's production. You can find those stats on NFL.com.