Rank the NFC East teams position by position....

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Brian Orakpo

The NFC East will be a 4 team race once again this year. Almost any order will look good to some and bad to others. For some reason I just dont like the Giants as much as the other 3 teams in the NFC East.

The Giants may have owned us last year (I dont see how they could of owned us in 2007 since we should of swept them) but even then they really didnt do anything special. The Skins offense just couldnt get it going.
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Opinions ....everyone has them,...maybe you should have swept the Giants but ya didn't .I'm trying to understand ....this year hasn't been played so we base our opinions on the last season played,correct,yet the Giants won the divison and had one of the best O lines in the league yet you rank them third ,2 running backs over 1000 yards and we are the worst RB team in your opinion.Romo has'nt won crap and yet you put Eli behind Romo,the only thing I will agree with you on is our WR's and DB's,basicly the rest is .........strickly opinion.

[Giantone]

QB) Eagles/Giants/Campbell/Romo

RB) Giants,/Skins-Eagles/cowboys

OL)Giants /Eagle/Cowboys/Skins

WR) Skins/Cowboys/Giants/Eagles

TE) Cowboys/Giants/Skin/Eagles

Punter) Giants/Cowboys/Skins/Eagles

PK) Giants/Eagles/Skins/Cowboys

DL) Giants/Cowboys/Eagles/Skins

LB)Cowboys,Eagles/Giants/Skins

DB) Skins,Eagles/Giants/Cowboys

Safety)Eagles/Skins/Cowboys/Giants

Coaching) Reid/Coughlin/Phillips/Zorn

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by Giantone

WR) Skins/Cowboys/Giants/Eagles

Oh boy....did you just rank the Skins WR the top in the NFC east?
you are obviously not a redskins fan...nor have you watched them enough to realize our issues

[pick-ups]

QB-Eagles/Giants/Cowboys/Redskins(Manning maybe the least talented,but has gotten it done for one post-season)
RB-Cowboys/Eagles/Redskins/Giants(Cowboys are the deepest and the Giants are last because I think that the real strength is the O-Line)
WR-Eagles/Redskins/Cowboys/Giants
TE-Cowboys/Redskins/Giants/Eagles
OL-Giants/Eagles/Cowboys/Redskins
DL-Giants/Redskins/Eagles/Cowboys
LB-Cowboys/Eagles/Giants/Redskins
CB-Eagles/Redskins/Cowboys/Giants
S-Redskins/Eagles/Giants/Cowboys
ST-Eagles/Cowboys/Giants/Redskins

These are ranking positions and do not for the most part equate into who is the best team and these will of course change as the season takes shape.
Each team has their share of question marks,but the division as a whole is the best in the league(from top to bottom).

Originally Posted by pick-ups

QB-Eagles/Giants/Cowboys/Redskins
RB-Cowboys/Eagles/Redskins/Giants
WR-Eagles/Redskins/Cowboys/Giants
TE-Cowboys/Redskins/Giants/Eagles
OL-Giants/Eagles/Cowboys/Redskins
DL-Giants/Redskins/Eagles/Cowboys
LB-Cowboys/Eagles/Giants/Redskins
CB-Eagles/Redskins/Cowboys/Giants
S-Redskins/Eagles/Giants/Cowboys
ST-Eagles/Cowboys/Giants/Redskins

Pretty solid rankings for a Eagle fan.

Gtripp and Paintrain's rankings were also well thought out and very nice imo.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

Oh boy....did you just rank the Skins WR the top in the NFC east?
you are obviously not a redskins fan...nor have you watched them enough to realize our issues

Who in the division has fewer questions at the WR position than we do?

Here are the top 3 returning WR for each team in the division from last year:
NYG-Smith (57 catches), Hixon (43 catches), Moss (12 catches) total 5 TD
Philly-Jackson (62 catches), Curtis (33 catches), Baskett (33 catches) total 7 TD
Dallas-Crayton (39 catches), R. Williams (19 catches), Austin (13 catches) total 8 TD
Wash-Moss (79 catches), Randle-El (53 catches), Thomas (15 catches) total 10 TD

NYG and Dallas are replacing their #1 WR (NYG is replacing #1 and #2) and the NYG and Eagles are counting on rookie WR to come in immediately and contribute. To me it's not really even close.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Who in the division has fewer questions at the WR position than we do?

Fewer questions? Everyone. Our weakness at WR is not that we don't have skilled players at the position, it's that we have no idea where we can expect the production to come from this year.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Fewer questions? Everyone. Our weakness at WR is not that we don't have skilled players at the position, it's that we have no idea where we can expect the production to come from this year.

I disagree , your wideouts were fine last year till your O line ...well got desimated and couldn't protect the QB.That affected eveything,the run game then the passing game.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Giantone

I disagree , your wideouts were fine last year till your O line ...well got desimated and couldn't protect the QB.That affected eveything,the run game then the passing game.

Well, Moss was great for a month, and Randle El had a nice season, but really, the rest of the team struggled the entire year at the wideout position. There was no silver lining in it, they were just bad, and bad all year.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Fewer questions? Everyone. Our weakness at WR is not that we don't have skilled players at the position, it's that we have no idea where we can expect the production to come from this year.

And how is that different than each team in the division? The difference to me is we are returning better players than anyone else and/or aren't counting on rookies/new players to significantly contribute.

The Giants have to replace Plaxico as a consistent WR and their main red zone weapon. They have to replace Toomer who was productive in moving the chains. They are counting on 2 rookies to do that. Smith is a solid #2 but he's no #1. Hixon has potential but he disappears often. Moss may not even make the team.

Philly has the same problem we had going into last year. All of their WR are of similar size and skill set. Jackson, Curtis and Baskett are all burners, not chain movers. That's where they used Westbrook and Celek. Now Maclin, who is going to have to learn an NFL passing tree, is supposed to come in and be a top contributor? I don't really see it.

Dallas has the MOST questions because they lost the best WR in the division from last year. Hate him or not, 67 catches, 1,000+ yards and 10 TD doesn't go un-missed. That's pretty significant to try to replace. R. Williams had one good year, one, and that was with Mike Martz calling the plays. Crayton and Austin don't scare anyone, at all. They made no additions to their WR corp and are expecting Williams to jump by 50+ receptions to be a #1? Shaky at best.

I think it's clear. Moss will produce like always, Randle El will produce similar to last year and if Thomas doubles his production (not a stretch based on all offseason reports) then we should have the class of the division at WR this year.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Philly has the same problem we had going into last year. All of their WR are of similar size and skill set. Jackson, Curtis and Baskett are all burners, not chain movers. That's where they used Westbrook and Celek. Now Maclin, who is going to have to learn an NFL passing tree, is supposed to come in and be a top contributor? I don't really see it.

Dallas has the MOST questions because they lost the best WR in the division from last year. Hate him or not, 67 catches, 1,000+ yards and 10 TD doesn't go un-missed. That's pretty significant to try to replace. R. Williams had one good year, one, and that was with Mike Martz calling the plays. Crayton and Austin don't scare anyone, at all. They made no additions to their WR corp and are expecting Williams to jump by 50+ receptions to be a #1? Shaky at best.

I think it's clear. Moss will produce like always, Randle El will produce similar to last year and if Thomas doubles his production (not a stretch based on all offseason reports) then we should have the class of the division at WR this year.

I would say Curtis has been a chain mover his entire career, going back to St. Louis. Avant and Baskett both enjoyed the seasons we wish Thomas and Kelly would have had last year. And Jackson, well, you and I are both high on him. The Eagles' only question is Jeremy Maclin, who comes in as the 4th or 5th WR anyway.

I agree with you that Roy Williams isn't going to up and become a number one receiver, but I'd take him over Santana as my No. 2 option in an explosive offense. I do think that Miles Austin has the stuff to replace Owens in the lineup. I think he has number one potential. Patrick Crayton is definately not a question mark, as he's been one of the more productive third receivers in this league for years now. The Cowboys are thinner at this position, but certainly not bad (even given the ridiculous trade for Williams).

And the Giants, well, I don't think they have question marks as much as they just aren't very good at the position.

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Who in the division has fewer questions at the WR position than we do?

Here are the top 3 returning WR for each team in the division from last year:
NYG-Smith (57 catches), Hixon (43 catches), Moss (12 catches) total 5 TD
Philly-Jackson (62 catches), Curtis (33 catches), Baskett (33 catches) total 7 TD
Dallas-Crayton (39 catches), R. Williams (19 catches), Austin (13 catches) total 8 TD
Wash-Moss (79 catches), Randle-El (53 catches), Thomas (15 catches) total 10 TD

NYG and Dallas are replacing their #1 WR (NYG is replacing #1 and #2) and the NYG and Eagles are counting on rookie WR to come in immediately and contribute. To me it's not really even close.

I understand your reasoning and it could be spot on. The only question I have is do you think Maclin can play the slot? With DeSean Jackson playing well last year and Curtis now healthy putting Maclin in the slot makes each player more explosive on offense. I dont think it will be too hard for Maclin to come in and play the slot WR role and make a impact.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Giantone

QB) Eagles/Giants/Campbell/Romo

RB) Giants,/Skins-Eagles/cowboys

OL)Giants /Eagle/Cowboys/Skins

WR) Skins/Cowboys/Giants/Eagles

TE) Cowboys/Giants/Skin/Eagles

Punter) Giants/Cowboys/Skins/Eagles

PK) Giants/Eagles/Skins/Cowboys

DL) Giants/Cowboys/Eagles/Skins

LB)Cowboys,Eagles/Giants/Skins

DB) Skins,Eagles/Giants/Cowboys

Safety)Eagles/Skins/Cowboys/Giants

Coaching) Reid/Coughlin/Phillips/Zorn

You think the Skins have the worst D-line in the division (umm, Haynesworth?) and the Giants in Kevin Boss have a better TE situation than we do?? That's the funniest thing I've seen all day. Cooley is 3x the TE Kevin Boss is 8 days a week.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by GMScud

You think the Skins have the worst D-line in the division (umm, Haynesworth?) and the Giants in Kevin Boss have a better TE situation than we do?? That's the funniest thing I've seen all day. Cooley is 3x the TE Kevin Boss is 8 days a week.

Ok, I'll go over it one more time ,my opinions on these picks is based on last year since this year hasn't been played yet.As for Haynsworth ...who knows if he'll be any good in the NFC East or not ...he'll be going against much better O lines.As for Cooley ...I already said he's a great TE but Boss did play better last year less fumbles and better blocking.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Ok, I'll go over it one more time ,my opinions on these picks is based on last year since this year hasn't been played yet.As for Haynsworth ...who knows if he'll be any good in the NFC East or not ...he'll be going against much better O lines.As for Cooley ...I already said he's a great TE but Boss did play better last year less fumbles and better blocking.

But, as I think it's been said, these rankings are about how they are constituted now, not at the end of last season. The whole point of the discussion is to get thoughts of current rosters. Last season is done.

Was Boss in the ProBowl? Has he been? Not that ProBowl is everything, but I think Cooley is easily recognized as better than Boss.