Rank the NFC East teams position by position....

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

Oh boy....did you just rank the Skins WR the top in the NFC east?
you are obviously not a redskins fan...nor have you watched them enough to realize our issues

Who in the division has fewer questions at the WR position than we do?

Here are the top 3 returning WR for each team in the division from last year:
NYG-Smith (57 catches), Hixon (43 catches), Moss (12 catches) total 5 TD
Philly-Jackson (62 catches), Curtis (33 catches), Baskett (33 catches) total 7 TD
Dallas-Crayton (39 catches), R. Williams (19 catches), Austin (13 catches) total 8 TD
Wash-Moss (79 catches), Randle-El (53 catches), Thomas (15 catches) total 10 TD

NYG and Dallas are replacing their #1 WR (NYG is replacing #1 and #2) and the NYG and Eagles are counting on rookie WR to come in immediately and contribute. To me it's not really even close.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Who in the division has fewer questions at the WR position than we do?

Fewer questions? Everyone. Our weakness at WR is not that we don't have skilled players at the position, it's that we have no idea where we can expect the production to come from this year.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Fewer questions? Everyone. Our weakness at WR is not that we don't have skilled players at the position, it's that we have no idea where we can expect the production to come from this year.

I disagree , your wideouts were fine last year till your O line ...well got desimated and couldn't protect the QB.That affected eveything,the run game then the passing game.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Giantone

I disagree , your wideouts were fine last year till your O line ...well got desimated and couldn't protect the QB.That affected eveything,the run game then the passing game.

Well, Moss was great for a month, and Randle El had a nice season, but really, the rest of the team struggled the entire year at the wideout position. There was no silver lining in it, they were just bad, and bad all year.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Fewer questions? Everyone. Our weakness at WR is not that we don't have skilled players at the position, it's that we have no idea where we can expect the production to come from this year.

And how is that different than each team in the division? The difference to me is we are returning better players than anyone else and/or aren't counting on rookies/new players to significantly contribute.

The Giants have to replace Plaxico as a consistent WR and their main red zone weapon. They have to replace Toomer who was productive in moving the chains. They are counting on 2 rookies to do that. Smith is a solid #2 but he's no #1. Hixon has potential but he disappears often. Moss may not even make the team.

Philly has the same problem we had going into last year. All of their WR are of similar size and skill set. Jackson, Curtis and Baskett are all burners, not chain movers. That's where they used Westbrook and Celek. Now Maclin, who is going to have to learn an NFL passing tree, is supposed to come in and be a top contributor? I don't really see it.

Dallas has the MOST questions because they lost the best WR in the division from last year. Hate him or not, 67 catches, 1,000+ yards and 10 TD doesn't go un-missed. That's pretty significant to try to replace. R. Williams had one good year, one, and that was with Mike Martz calling the plays. Crayton and Austin don't scare anyone, at all. They made no additions to their WR corp and are expecting Williams to jump by 50+ receptions to be a #1? Shaky at best.

I think it's clear. Moss will produce like always, Randle El will produce similar to last year and if Thomas doubles his production (not a stretch based on all offseason reports) then we should have the class of the division at WR this year.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Philly has the same problem we had going into last year. All of their WR are of similar size and skill set. Jackson, Curtis and Baskett are all burners, not chain movers. That's where they used Westbrook and Celek. Now Maclin, who is going to have to learn an NFL passing tree, is supposed to come in and be a top contributor? I don't really see it.

Dallas has the MOST questions because they lost the best WR in the division from last year. Hate him or not, 67 catches, 1,000+ yards and 10 TD doesn't go un-missed. That's pretty significant to try to replace. R. Williams had one good year, one, and that was with Mike Martz calling the plays. Crayton and Austin don't scare anyone, at all. They made no additions to their WR corp and are expecting Williams to jump by 50+ receptions to be a #1? Shaky at best.

I think it's clear. Moss will produce like always, Randle El will produce similar to last year and if Thomas doubles his production (not a stretch based on all offseason reports) then we should have the class of the division at WR this year.

I would say Curtis has been a chain mover his entire career, going back to St. Louis. Avant and Baskett both enjoyed the seasons we wish Thomas and Kelly would have had last year. And Jackson, well, you and I are both high on him. The Eagles' only question is Jeremy Maclin, who comes in as the 4th or 5th WR anyway.

I agree with you that Roy Williams isn't going to up and become a number one receiver, but I'd take him over Santana as my No. 2 option in an explosive offense. I do think that Miles Austin has the stuff to replace Owens in the lineup. I think he has number one potential. Patrick Crayton is definately not a question mark, as he's been one of the more productive third receivers in this league for years now. The Cowboys are thinner at this position, but certainly not bad (even given the ridiculous trade for Williams).

And the Giants, well, I don't think they have question marks as much as they just aren't very good at the position.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I would say Curtis has been a chain mover his entire career, going back to St. Louis. Avant and Baskett both enjoyed the seasons we wish Thomas and Kelly would have had last year. And Jackson, well, you and I are both high on him. The Eagles' only question is Jeremy Maclin, who comes in as the 4th or 5th WR anyway.

I agree with you that Roy Williams isn't going to up and become a number one receiver, but I'd take him over Santana as my No. 2 option in an explosive offense. I do think that Miles Austin has the stuff to replace Owens in the lineup. I think he has number one potential. Patrick Crayton is definately not a question mark, as he's been one of the more productive third receivers in this league for years now. The Cowboys are thinner at this position, but certainly not bad (even given the ridiculous trade for Williams).

And the Giants, well, I don't think they have question marks as much as they just aren't very good at the position.

You may be right on Curtis, I guess I just think of him more as a vertical WR than a possession guy. If Thomas and Kelly had the same production Avant and Baskett had last year we would have been very happy (and won 11 games) but I expect Thomas to exceed both of them this year while they will probably remain stagnant at those numbers.

You are much higher on Austin than I am. I think he's got good tools but he seems to be lacking a certain something that is preventing him from being 'that guy'. I think Williams is a decent #2 miscast as an expected #1. I'd still take Moss for the big play opportunities he presents. To me Crayton is what he is, a #3 who will flash occasional big games but isn't really a reliable weapon. He's like James Thrash-Cowboy style.

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Who in the division has fewer questions at the WR position than we do?

Here are the top 3 returning WR for each team in the division from last year:
NYG-Smith (57 catches), Hixon (43 catches), Moss (12 catches) total 5 TD
Philly-Jackson (62 catches), Curtis (33 catches), Baskett (33 catches) total 7 TD
Dallas-Crayton (39 catches), R. Williams (19 catches), Austin (13 catches) total 8 TD
Wash-Moss (79 catches), Randle-El (53 catches), Thomas (15 catches) total 10 TD

NYG and Dallas are replacing their #1 WR (NYG is replacing #1 and #2) and the NYG and Eagles are counting on rookie WR to come in immediately and contribute. To me it's not really even close.

I understand your reasoning and it could be spot on. The only question I have is do you think Maclin can play the slot? With DeSean Jackson playing well last year and Curtis now healthy putting Maclin in the slot makes each player more explosive on offense. I dont think it will be too hard for Maclin to come in and play the slot WR role and make a impact.