Rank the NFC East teams position by position....

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Who cares about all that winning % stuff. Eli is a Suber Bowl winning QB and that's the bottom line. Yes their defense had a lot to do with it but so what? He played great when his team needed him to and that's all that matters. Terry Bradshaw was never really a consistent passer. He was just great when he had to be. I'll take that guy over a guy who plays well during the season and chokes when it matters most.

Who cares about all that winning % stuff? Hmm let me think. Oh snap. Winners do.

All im saying is for someone to tell me Eli is better than Romo is funny. He isnt better than Romo in anything. Yes Eli is a Super Bowl winning QB but hey so is Trent Dilfer.

Comparing Terry Bradshaw to Eli Manning is kinda stupid. For starters comparing a QB who played in the 1970s to a QB who plays in this era is laughable. Second, I realize Bradshaw might be overrated to a extent but hes a HOFer. Eli wont sniff the HOF unless hes brown nosing his brothers greatness.

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Like I said, I think McNabb is better but don't act like Eli is chopped liver. He's a streaky passer, just like McNabb is.

When someone calls a QB a streaky passer I have always found that to be a bad thing. Saying McNabb is a streaky passer is kinda perplexing when he has a 82-45-1 career record and has a 194-90 TD-INT ratio in the regular season. McNabb has also led his team to 5 conference championship games and one Super Bowl appearance.

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Originally Posted by Brian Orakpo

When someone calls a QB a streaky passer I have always found that to be a bad thing. Saying McNabb is a streaky passer is kinda perplexing when he has a 82-45-1 career record and has a 194-90 TD-INT ratio in the regular season. McNabb has also led his team to 5 conference championship games and one Super Bowl appearance.

I think McNabb is one of the top QB's in the NFL. I also think when it comes to passing he's streaky. He's hot and cold. I think most would agree w/ that statement. I don't think that's a bad thing. I think he's always been that way as a pure passer.

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I never said Eli was better. I just think when his team needed him to play his best he did. Overall I think Romo is a more talented player.

And I wasn't comparing Manning to Bradshaw, I just used Bradshaw as an example that he was never really a great passer, he was just great when his team really needed him to be. But I never compared the two.

I know you didnt. The post you quoted was the one I was using to compare Eli and Romo to another poster. I was just referring to why I brought out those stats.

As for Bradshaw I agree he may of never been a great passer so I understand why you brought him up to compare. I just didnt think it was the best comparison since Bradshaw really stepped up in big games and Eli overall hasnt. Yes Eli had a solid 2007 playoff run and won the Super Bowl with the Giants. I just think besides the wild card game against the Bucs he really didnt do anything great except play a safer game. Even then if certain defenders caught his wild throws the Giants wouldnt be world champs.

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I think McNabb is one of the top QB's in the NFL. I also think when it comes to passing he's streaky. He's hot and cold. I think most would agree w/ that statement. I don't think that's a bad thing. I think he's always been that way as a pure passer.

Maybe in some games he has been streaky. To a certain extent all QBs go through certain moments. I just think there is a difference between Elis "streaky" and McNabbs "streaky".

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Originally Posted by Brian Orakpo

I know you didnt. The post you quoted was the one I was using to compare Eli and Romo to another poster. I was just referring to why I brought out those stats.

As for Bradshaw I agree he may of never been a great passer so I understand why you brought him up to compare. I just didnt think it was the best comparison since Bradshaw really stepped up in big games and Eli overall hasnt. Yes Eli had a solid 2007 playoff run and won the Super Bowl with the Giants. I just think besides the wild card game against the Bucs he really didnt do anything great except play a safer game. Even then if certain defenders caught his wild throws the Giants wouldnt be world champs.

Lets not forget that Eli has been one and done in 3 of his 4 attempts in the playoffs(twice at the hands of the Eagles).
The year before and after their SB run.
`05 vs Panthers 0-24
`06 vs Eagles 17-20
`08 vs Eagles 11-23

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Originally Posted by pick-ups

Lets not forget that Eli has been one and done in 3 of his 4 attempts in the playoffs(twice at the hands of the Eagles).
The year before and after their SB run.
`05 vs Panthers 0-24
`06 vs Eagles 17-20
`08 vs Eagles 11-23

yeah, and were has that gotten you? Like it or not Eli brought out the best in his team ,he's dealt with more problems then any other QB on the list.Remeber we still beat Carolina even after losing Plax,name me one other QB on the list that has an MVP of the Super Bowl ....and I'll shut up.:yeahright

Originally Posted by Giantone

yeah, and were has that gotten you? Like it or not Eli brought out the best in his team ,he's dealt with more problems then any other QB on the list.Remeber we still beat Carolina even after losing Plax,name me one other QB on the list that has an MVP of the Super Bowl ....and I'll shut up.:yeahright

...ill go get his reservation for Canton. Im sure that one SB MVP Trophy will negate his 76.1 career QB rating. Because the way you keep hyping him up he must be Canton bound.

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I think McNabb is one of the top QB's in the NFL. I also think when it comes to passing he's streaky. He's hot and cold. I think most would agree w/ that statement. I don't think that's a bad thing. I think he's always been that way as a pure passer.

I think it's a bad thing if you are trying to point out the eliteness of his quarterbacking, but McNabb is a valuable player despite his streakiness.

As is Campbell, just to throw his name in there somehow.

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Originally Posted by Brian Orakpo

Who cares about all that winning % stuff? Hmm let me think. Oh snap. Winners do.

All im saying is for someone to tell me Eli is better than Romo is funny. He isnt better than Romo in anything. Yes Eli is a Super Bowl winning QB but hey so is Trent Dilfer.

Comparing Terry Bradshaw to Eli Manning is kinda stupid. For starters comparing a QB who played in the 1970s to a QB who plays in this era is laughable. Second, I realize Bradshaw might be overrated to a extent but hes a HOFer. Eli wont sniff the HOF unless hes brown nosing his brothers greatness.

I never said Eli was better. I just think when his team needed him to play his best he did. Overall I think Romo is a more talented player.

And I wasn't comparing Manning to Bradshaw, I just used Bradshaw as an example that he was never really a great passer, he was just great when his team really needed him to be. But I never compared the two.