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[cpayne5]

A great defensive mind doesn't have to know how to run an offense well. All he has to do is know how to pick who to run the offense. That's Gibbs' biggest asset, he knows who to surround himself with.

[jdlea]

I think that if Gregg Williams begins to consider another head coaching job Joe Gibbs should think about stepping down and becoming the GM only. I think that if Joe Gibbs is really committed to returning the Redskins to dynasty status he has to realize it will probably not happen under him. They could become a good team in the short term, but Joe Gibbs is not the long term solution at head coach. I know everyone realizes that and I think Joe has even said that. If Williams is offered a job that he would consider I think the Skins might want to think about this scenario.

I don't think this would be a bad idea at all. Joe Gibbs would be right upstairs. He could still mentor Gregg Williams in a way and he would be able to stay with the team. Like I said, Joe Gibbs is not the long term answer to the head coaching position in Washington. I think that Gregg Williams could be and if Joe is truly committed to returning this team to greatness (which I believe he is) he should give this some serious thought.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by jdlea

I think that if Gregg Williams begins to consider another head coaching job Joe Gibbs should think about stepping down and becoming the GM only. I think that if Joe Gibbs is really committed to returning the Redskins to dynasty status he has to realize it will probably not happen under him. They could become a good team in the short term, but Joe Gibbs is not the long term solution at head coach. I know everyone realizes that and I think Joe has even said that. If Williams is offered a job that he would consider I think the Skins might want to think about this scenario.

I don't think this would be a bad idea at all. Joe Gibbs would be right upstairs. He could still mentor Gregg Williams in a way and he would be able to stay with the team. Like I said, Joe Gibbs is not the long term answer to the head coaching position in Washington. I think that Gregg Williams could be and if Joe is truly committed to returning this team to greatness (which I believe he is) he should give this some serious thought.

Yes, but he certainly is the short term solution, I would have a hard time believing the William's right now is a better offensive coach than Gibb's? I would also be more than a little scepticle about Gibb's GM abilities, he did give 43 mil. to Brunell, and traded for a system back with no power to run his ball control power running game and gave him 50mil to boot, and let us not forget his last draft pick before this past draft and 1 Desmond Howard, Gibb's ability to spot can't mis talent is a little off to say the least, fortuantly for us William's and co. where able to convince him to take Taylor, over Winslow.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by cpayne5

A great defensive mind doesn't have to know how to run an offense well. All he has to do is know how to pick who to run the offense. That's Gibbs' biggest asset, he knows who to surround himself with.

Tell that to Buddy Ryan, If a head coach doesn't know how to run an offense than how is he supposed to know who does if he doesn't understand it himself, and then what does he do if that coordinator leaves for another job? Offensive geniouses are few and far between, if your going to open a restaurant and your cook is the buisness, you better be able to cook yourself because it's only a matter of time before he open's shop somewhere else and put's you out of buisness, many so called great coordiator's are the product of running system's that they have been taught, and fine tuned by the head coach, the HC makes sure the coordinator's run what he want's run, who do you think taught Belichik how to coach? Parcell's! Parcell's didn't get lucky and just happen to make a good hire, he made Belichik into the type of coach that he wanted, take a look at Gibb's he had several offensive coordinators during his first tenure and he never missed a beat, why? Because he controlled what they did, and that's what a coach does, that's why Wanstad is looking for a job right now he couldn't get the job done without Jimmy Johnson telling him what to do.

[cpayne5]

Originally Posted by offiss

Tell that to Buddy Ryan, If a head coach doesn't know how to run an offense than how is he supposed to know who does if he doesn't understand it himself, and then what does he do if that coordinator leaves for another job? Offensive geniouses are few and far between, if your going to open a restaurant and your cook is the buisness, you better be able to cook yourself because it's only a matter of time before he open's shop somewhere else and put's you out of buisness, many so called great coordiator's are the product of running system's that they have been taught, and fine tuned by the head coach, the HC makes sure the coordinator's run what he want's run, who do you think taught Belichik how to coach? Parcell's! Parcell's didn't get lucky and just happen to make a good hire, he made Belichik into the type of coach that he wanted, take a look at Gibb's he had several offensive coordinators during his first tenure and he never missed a beat, why? Because he controlled what they did, and that's what a coach does, that's why Wanstad is looking for a job right now he couldn't get the job done without Jimmy Johnson telling him what to do.

You're missing the point of what I said.
Take JG for instance. He has turned over power to the defensive side of the ball to Gregg Williams. He trusts Williams (for good reason, apparently) and focuses on his side of the ball (offense). Now, take Gregg Williams and let him do the same thing as head coach, but he would then turn over reins to the offense.

If Buddy Ryan knew how to pick an OC, he would have been more successful. Wannstadt had a decent D, it was the offensive side of the ball that got him run out of town. It will be interesting to see just how much of that genious status Bellicheck will retain with Charlie Weiss in South Bend.