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Old 05-26-2009, 05:42 PM   #1
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Old 05-26-2009, 07:15 PM   #2
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Re: I think this might be our answer for OLB...

if you don't think you can do it, who else would?
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Old 05-28-2009, 12:35 PM   #3
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Re: I think this might be our answer for OLB...

Sounds like Marcus is having a productive offseason.

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Old 05-28-2009, 01:47 PM   #4
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Sounds like Marcus is having a productive offseason.

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The Redskins have since signed a few linebackers, moved end Chris Wilson to linebacker and drafted hybrid linebacker Brian Orakpo, so the chances of any need or want on their end at this point are essentially nonexistent.
I find it hard to believe if Marcus Washington's agent called the Skins and said he would sign a vet min deal that we wouldnt at least give him a shot in camp. I like Chris Wilson at OLB but its still a question mark at this point and Orakpo was drafted to be a DE not to be played out of position.

Id give Marcus one last shot to stay healthy and make some plays. If only so we can move Orakpo back to DE.
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Sounds like Marcus is having a productive offseason.

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He'll be back with somebody, and probably be in better shape than he's been in awhile. I wish him the best and hope he doesn't sign with a NFC East rival. I'm still holding out hope but I don't think he even wants to sign with us. Thanks for the post GMScud, that's the first news I've heard in awhile.
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Old 05-28-2009, 01:58 PM   #6
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Re: I think this might be our answer for OLB...

I could see Orakpo playin like a D. Thomas -RIP- role. He was a very good OLB and a GREAT passrusher. RAK has that kind of talent although im not sayin he is the next D Thomas. just an example.
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Old 05-28-2009, 05:42 PM   #7
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Re: I think this might be our answer for OLB...

I think we should just let the two rookies, Fincher, Wilson and Blades play and the best combination should be out there during the season. No need for a top name LB, with shutdown corners and the defensive line we have, we are fine at LB. Just think a few years ago, we had Lemar Marshall and he wasn't stellar, but did a good job. Ellis sounds like another Trotter or Armstead, do you really want that?
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Old 05-28-2009, 06:05 PM   #8
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I think we should just let the two rookies, Fincher, Wilson and Blades play and the best combination should be out there during the season. No need for a top name LB, with shutdown corners and the defensive line we have, we are fine at LB. Just think a few years ago, we had Lemar Marshall and he wasn't stellar, but did a good job. Ellis sounds like another Trotter or Armstead, do you really want that?
The best option for the team imo is to start Chris Wilson at LB and move Orakpo back to DE on 1st and 2nd downs. Id like to see what Chris Wilson can do at OLB since he has talent and we are stacked at DE.

I wouldnt mind Ellis or Washington coming here if the price is right.
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Old 05-28-2009, 08:05 PM   #9
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The best option for the team imo is to start Chris Wilson at LB
Oh boy...thats a major leap of faith...to be honest....I think the reason they are trying Orapko at LB is to see if they dont need Wilson anymore.

Truth is, Wilson is a servicable Pass rushing DE specialist...nothing more.
It will be a shame to lose him...ideally we can trade him for something...maybe a 6th rounder....maybe the Skins are trying to showcase him.

I personally would prefer to keep 3 DE's with pass rushing skills...Wilson is one of them.

I really dont see Wilson working out as a LB...and certainly not any better than the 6th LB.
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Old 05-28-2009, 09:28 PM   #10
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Oh boy...thats a major leap of faith...to be honest....I think the reason they are trying Orapko at LB is to see if they dont need Wilson anymore.

Truth is, Wilson is a servicable Pass rushing DE specialist...nothing more.
It will be a shame to lose him...ideally we can trade him for something...maybe a 6th rounder....maybe the Skins are trying to showcase him.

I personally would prefer to keep 3 DE's with pass rushing skills...Wilson is one of them.

I really dont see Wilson working out as a LB...and certainly not any better than the 6th LB.
That is a leap of faith. I also realize hes got talent as a pass rusher. Since we have alot of DEs on the roster right now id give Wilson all the chances in the world to fit as a OLB. Hes played the position before in high school, college, and in Canada. If he can adjust to OLB in the NFL it will make our defense that much more explosive. It would also get Orakpo at DE.
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Old 05-29-2009, 11:05 AM   #11
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Oh boy...thats a major leap of faith...to be honest....I think the reason they are trying Orapko at LB is to see if they dont need Wilson anymore.

Truth is, Wilson is a servicable Pass rushing DE specialist...nothing more.
It will be a shame to lose him...ideally we can trade him for something...maybe a 6th rounder....maybe the Skins are trying to showcase him.

I personally would prefer to keep 3 DE's with pass rushing skills...Wilson is one of them.

I really dont see Wilson working out as a LB...and certainly not any better than the 6th LB.
It maybe a leap of faith, but with the D-line having been improved with AH who will command a double team and the majority of the D-line coming back who already know the system plus having a great DE such as Orakpo then Wilson would probably do extremely well. If he can keep up with TE's then he should do fine. Plus offer a decent pass rush with the D-line when needed.
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Old 05-31-2009, 05:47 PM   #12
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It maybe a leap of faith, but with the D-line having been improved with AH who will command a double team and the majority of the D-line coming back who already know the system plus having a great DE such as Orakpo then Wilson would probably do extremely well. If he can keep up with TE's then he should do fine. Plus offer a decent pass rush with the D-line when needed.
I see your points about "hoping" Wilson can start at LB....but I am skeptical because he hasn't even played in the NFL as a backup yet...that is why I think it is totally unrealistic to think he will be our starter....Do I hope for it too? of course...just like I hope that fatty boom-ballaty will be our starter at RT day one after 3 years of eatting ho-hos.

Funny...some folks say that Vick can't play after 2 years out...but chubs can be our starter at RT after 3 years off and 100 lbs of flab build up...

Do I want it to work out in this "dream situation" for Wilson and Chubbs?...of course....but lets be realistic...the odds are like 80% against it....time to take off the rose colored glasses and look at reality.

We still need a quality starting 3rd LB....and we don't have one on the roster
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Old 05-29-2009, 11:02 AM   #13
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Re: I think this might be our answer for OLB...

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The best option for the team imo is to start Chris Wilson at LB and move Orakpo back to DE on 1st and 2nd downs. Id like to see what Chris Wilson can do at OLB since he has talent and we are stacked at DE.

I wouldnt mind Ellis or Washington coming here if the price is right.
This is what I hope works out for them. I think the team is also but moving Orakpo around to explore their options.
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Old 05-28-2009, 06:19 PM   #14
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Re: I think this might be our answer for OLB...

I think on this topic im just going to put faith in the coaches to make the right call. We arent at the workouts and we dont get to see these guys go through the drills. My guess is if we move RAK to SLB that means Daniels is impressing at the DE spot with his new strength he talked about.
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Old 05-28-2009, 06:34 PM   #15
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I think on this topic im just going to put faith in the coaches to make the right call. We arent at the workouts and we dont get to see these guys go through the drills. My guess is if we move RAK to SLB that means Daniels is impressing at the DE spot with his new strength he talked about.
I think it comes down to the fact that this team likes run stopping LDEs. While Orakpo brings more of a pass rush on every down Daniels is a pretty good run stopper.

I honestly dont like the idea of Daniels at LDE because while you need a guy who can stop the run you also want a DE who can put pressure on QBs. I dont think Daniels can do that when teams pass on 1st and 2nd down.

The team probably does have the best lineup with Daniels at LDE and Orakpo at OLB (with him rushing from DE on 3rd downs) on paper. If this is how its going to be during the season hopefully the coaching staff is right. I would just like to have two DEs on all three downs that I know can get to the QB on a regular basis. I have more faith in Orakpo/Carter than Daniels/Carter.
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