I think this might be our answer for OLB... (Greg Ellis?)

Originally Posted by vallin21

Yes I am saying that. Bro "if" that ever happened then I would admit I was wrong, but it hasn't. It's like people continue to play with fire and have 3rd degree burns. (not that extreme but you know what I'm getting at) You're probably the same person that wanted Deion, Alvin Harper, and Brandon Noble. And Look what that did for us....

Play with fire? Teams try the best they can to get the talent needed to win. I dont care what team he last played for. He could of played for the Satan All-Stars and id still sign him if he gave my team a better chance to win.

I didnt have a problem with Deion Sanders at the time. Hes probably one of the top 3 corners to ever play the game. So yeah back in 2000 I didnt mind having a trio of Champ Bailey, Deion Sanders, and Darrell Green. The only Skins fans who didnt want Deion were the ones holding a grudge for all the times he whipped our ass over the years.

As for Alvin Harper I didnt have any opinion one way or the other. I didnt think he was anything special. He did play 2 seasons for Tampa Bay before us so it wasnt like he came right from the Cowboys here.

Brandon Noble had knee problems but when he played for us he played well. He even won the Ed Block Courage Award after coming back from his first knee injury with us. I wanted Noble and had no problems with that move. You cant predict knee injuries they could happen to anyone. He probably would of came back and played some more for us if he didnt get a staph infection that ended his career after his 2nd knee injury.

[vallin21]

Originally Posted by Brian Orakpo

Play with fire? Teams try the best they can to get the talent needed to win. I dont care what team he last played for. He could of played for the Satan All-Stars and id still sign him if he gave my team a better chance to win.

I didnt have a problem with Deion Sanders at the time. Hes probably one of the top 3 corners to ever play the game. So yeah back in 2000 I didnt mind having a trio of Champ Bailey, Deion Sanders, and Darrell Green. The only Skins fans who didnt want Deion were the ones holding a grudge for all the times he whipped our ass over the years. (Excuse, he was washed up, and he stole money from Synder)

As for Alvin Harper I didnt have any opinion one way or the other. I didnt think he was anything special. He did play 2 seasons for Tampa Bay before us so it wasnt like he came right from the Cowboys here. ( That's pointless. His longest tenure was with the Boys, he's a Cowboy)

Brandon Noble had knee problems but when he played for us he played well. He even won the Ed Block Courage Award after coming back from his first knee injury with us. I wanted Noble and had no problems with that move. You cant predict knee injuries they could happen to anyone. He probably would of came back and played some more for us if he didnt get a staph infection that ended his career after his 2nd knee injury.

( True, you can't predict knee injures, but when he was healthy he didn't do shit. Another excuse)

What's you're point? All those players were terrible with us. Don't make excuses for each player I listed, if you're trying to make an point just make it. Yeah Evans was good, but he was a cheap FA that had no expectations, all of these guys (Harper, Sanders, and Noble) were high-priced and big named FA's that people had high expectations for. Just admit it: NO COWBOY HAS COME HERE AND PERFORMED AT A HIGH LEVEL.

Originally Posted by vallin21

( True, you can't predict knee injures, but when he was healthy he didn't do shit. Another excuse)

What's you're point? All those players were terrible with us. Don't make excuses for each player I listed, if you're trying to make an point just make it. Yeah Evans was good, but he was a cheap FA that had no expectations, all of these guys (Harper, Sanders, and Noble) were high-priced and big named FA's that people had high expectations for. Just admit it: NO COWBOY HAS COME HERE AND PERFORMED AT A HIGH LEVEL.

I disagree. Noble was a solid piece to our defensive tackle rotation. He wasnt a pro bowler but he wasnt "shit" either. I dont think I was making excuses for Noble. Im just pointing out when he did play for us he was solid. I dont think knee injuries should go against him.

Im not making excuses for each player you listed. Where did I make "excuses" for Deion or Harper? I only suggested alot of Skins fans wanted Deion. I said I had no opinion about Harper at the time we signed him. I didnt think he was anything special so I had no opinion good or bad at the time. You said I probably wanted all three of those guys. I admit I did want two of them. I never made any excuses for any of them though. At the sametime Harper and Noble werent brought in to be superstars.

I know no one had high expectations for Evans but if you had high expectations for Harper or Noble then you either didnt watch them play before we signed them or you overhype players. Harper didnt do nothing in two seasons in TB before he came to Washington and Noble was solid but not a great player.

The only point I was trying to make is just because certain Cowboy players havent worked out in the past doesnt mean we should never bring in a Cowboy player again. If you honestly hate the Cowboys so much that you dont want to try to improve your own football team then you have some serious issues. Its like you think ex-cowboys to this franchise are like the Madden curse. No offense but the only player who the Skins have brought in in the last 10 years from the Cowboys who was suppose to be something special was Deion Sanders.

(oh as for Harper playing two season in TB before he came to DC. The only reason I brought it up was because I thought we were talking about players who came from Dallas to Washington. Since he played last for Tampa Bay I didnt understand why he was brought into the discussion.)