Colt Brennan Says He'll "Play A Ton" In The Preseason

[Nflnick11]

Originally Posted by SkinzzFan

You're trying to convince us you know what you're talking about because Dan Snyder and Vinny Cerrato saw the same thing you did? Seriously? Please remember Dan Snyder is the guy who handed Steve Spurrier the reigns and he brought in Danny Wuerffel to be the QB. That "logic" is laughable.

Plus wishing injury on ANYONE is just plain ignorant. Add to that you're saying you would rather give Colt a shot over trading for Cutler? Campbell has improved every year despite a rotating door for Offensive Coordinators and an injury prone and aging offensive line. Clearly you just dislike Campbell since you're calling for a season ending injury. If Colt is so much better, he should be able to beat Campbell out in the preseason. Remember Colt is the third option...he still has to beat out Todd Collins!! LOL.

Bottom line: Campbell is our QB and he's gonna prove all the doubters wrong in 2009.

HAIL!!

True, most of the time snyder doesn't make good decisions, but I think that he was on to something with getting cutler, cause cutler isn't a wimp throwing the ball like Campbell. He may throw more picks than Campbell, but he also throws twice as many TDs as Campbell, thus scoring more points, therefore a much better chance of winning the game with a highly touted defense like ours, this is why I like colt, cause he also showed that he isn't afraid to throw the ball, like cutler....Campbell on the other hand is like " let's dump it off to the short route receiver or maybe I'll throw it deep to santana, but only if he's got his man beat by atleast four steps...". This won't change, he's a conservative quarterback, and to win in the NFL today you need to be able to just go out there and sling it...I think zorn wants to name colt the second QB during training camp, cause you can't name someone that with no cause...then I think he doesn't really need to tell Jason anymore that he's on the hot seat, but he'll definitley let him know that he isn't afraid to to give one of the backups the starting job..plus Campbell and zorn aren't idiots, they know that colts a fan favorite, and they read the message boards every once in a while and pobably this site too

As for me wishing an injury on Campbell, sure that's a bad thing to wish on someone (even tho I wish one on tom Brady every year) but A) I only wish campbell would get a hard hit or something that causes him to sit out for a quarter or so, not a season ending injury or a broken arm, foot, leg, or hand...I think an injury that's small is all it would tAke to put colt in with the first teamers, and see what he could really do, cause I don't think zorn well put him in after everything JCs been thru this offseason and telling him that he's our starting QB, plus I'll give one last chance to wow me or show me that he's improved in his second year in the offense, but as soon as he shows me nothing has changed, bring on the cult of colt!

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Nflnick11

True, most of the time snyder doesn't make good decisions, but I think that he was on to something with getting cutler, cause cutler isn't a wimp throwing the ball like Campbell. He may throw more picks than Campbell, but he also throws twice as many TDs as Campbell, thus scoring more points, therefore a much better chance of winning the game with a highly touted defense like ours, this is why I like colt, cause he also showed that he isn't afraid to throw the ball, like cutler....Campbell on the other hand is like " let's dump it off to the short route receiver or maybe I'll throw it deep to santana, but only if he's got his man beat by atleast four steps...". This won't change, he's a conservative quarterback, and to win in the NFL today you need to be able to just go out there and sling it...I think zorn wants to name colt the second QB during training camp, cause you can't name someone that with no cause...then I think he doesn't really need to tell Jason anymore that he's on the hot seat, but he'll definitley let him know that he isn't afraid to to give one of the backups the starting job..plus Campbell and zorn aren't idiots, they know that colts a fan favorite, and they read the message boards every once in a while and pobably this site too

As for me wishing an injury on Campbell, sure that's a bad thing to wish on someone (even tho I wish one on tom Brady every year) but A) I only wish campbell would get a hard hit or something that causes him to sit out for a quarter or so, not a season ending injury or a broken arm, foot, leg, or hand...I think an injury that's small is all it would tAke to put colt in with the first teamers, and see what he could really do, cause I don't think zorn well put him in after everything JCs been thru this offseason and telling him that he's our starting QB, plus I'll give one last chance to wow me or show me that he's improved in his second year in the offense, but as soon as he shows me nothing has changed, bring on the cult of colt!

Colt hasn't done crap in the NFL. If he can't beat out Collins for the #2 than maybe, just maybe, he's not as good as Collins. The guy has a puss arm, quirky side-arm release, and isn't exactly a rocket scientist. Maybe you should've paid attention to Jaworski's assessment of him when he was drafted. I'll take Jaws opinion over yours, Danny's and VC's when it comes to QBs. What about Zorn, his job is on the line everyday, don't you think he's going to put the best players on the field? Your logic on this is questionable at best....actually it's more along the lines of what Ruhskins described.

[Nflnick11]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Colt hasn't done crap in the NFL. If he can't beat out Collins for the #2 than maybe, just maybe, he's not as good as Collins. The guy has a puss arm, quirky side-arm release, and isn't exactly a rocket scientist. Maybe you should've paid attention to Jaworski's assessment of him when he was drafted. I'll take Jaws opinion over yours, Danny's and VC's when it comes to QBs. What about Zorn, his job is on the line everyday, don't you think he's going to put the best players on the field? Your logic on this is questionable at best....actually it's more along the lines of what Ruhskins described.

Your zorn arguement is a good one, but your listening to one crappy opinion, Jaws, really?!?!? What's this quirky motion he keeps talkin' about...joe theisman is the one I'd be listening to, during the preseason he said what we all saw during preseason, which is that sure all these critics say this and that about colt, but when he plays, he's like Brett favre, he has "it", where he just goes out there and slings it, remember against the jets, they came with an all out blitz, he thought they would come with it, he audibled, and threw a quick dart to Jason goode the TE from Maryland ...now Jason Campbell playing pitsburgh they come with an all out blitz he isn't sure if it's coming and decides to run out of the pocket, but gets smacked into the sidelines by Lawrence timmons...just one thing I like about colt than Campbell,

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Nflnick11

Your zorn arguement is a good one, but your listening to one crappy opinion, Jaws, really?!?!? What's this quirky motion he keeps talkin' about...joe theisman is the one I'd be listening to, during the preseason he said what we all saw during preseason, which is that sure all these critics say this and that about colt, but when he plays, he's like Brett favre, he has "it", where he just goes out there and slings it, remember against the jets, they came with an all out blitz, he thought they would come with it, he audibled, and threw a quick dart to Jason goode the TE from Maryland ...now Jason Campbell playing pitsburgh they come with an all out blitz he isn't sure if it's coming and decides to run out of the pocket, but gets smacked into the sidelines by Lawrence timmons...just one thing I like about colt than Campbell,

You need to have more than "it" to make it as a starter in the NFL. And you really don't see a quirky motion with Colt? I mean, it's not like it can't work. Kosar was the ugliest passer ever and Jeff George had one of the best arms. But Bankrupt Bernie's NFL career will be remembered more fondly. And it's not like Campbell can't and hasn't made plays before (see Saints game 2008)

[Nflnick11]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You need to have more than "it" to make it as a starter in the NFL. And you really don't see a quirky motion with Colt? I mean, it's not like it can't work. Kosar was the ugliest passer ever and Jeff George had one of the best arms. But Bankrupt Bernie's NFL career will be remembered more fondly. And it's not like Campbell can't and hasn't made plays before (see Saints game 2008)

The only thing I notice about colt is his side arm release I don't see a quirky motion, and as long as that ball goes from him to the receiver and not a defender then hell, I don't care if he throws the ball under hand or punts it for gods sake...have any of you ever thrown a ball side armed, I have with my son, and I throw a pretty damn good spiral and accurate when I do that

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Nflnick11

The only thing I notice about colt is his side arm release I don't see a quirky motion, and as long as that ball goes from him to the receiver and not a defender then hell, I don't care if he throws the ball under hand or punts it for gods sake...have any of you ever thrown a ball side armed, I have with my son, and I throw a pretty damn good spiral and accurate when I do that

A side arm release IS a quirky motion. And a side arm may suit you well in the back yard, but try using that motion to throw over tall linemen charging with their hands up. There are good reasons why there are not more side armers in the NFL.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Nflnick11

The only thing I notice about colt is his side arm release I don't see a quirky motion, and as long as that ball goes from him to the receiver and not a defender then hell, I don't care if he throws the ball under hand or punts it for gods sake...have any of you ever thrown a ball side armed, I have with my son, and I throw a pretty damn good spiral and accurate when I do that

Your son? Aren't you like 17 years old or something like that?

Anyway, yeah I throw the ball side armed sometimes. I was a sidearm pitcher in high school and I sometimes applied that to football. It was less strain on my arm, but it didn't make it any less quirky

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Nflnick11

Your zorn arguement is a good one, but your listening to one crappy opinion, Jaws, really?!?!? What's this quirky motion he keeps talkin' about...joe theisman is the one I'd be listening to, during the preseason he said what we all saw during preseason, which is that sure all these critics say this and that about colt, but when he plays, he's like Brett favre, he has "it", where he just goes out there and slings it, remember against the jets, they came with an all out blitz, he thought they would come with it, he audibled, and threw a quick dart to Jason goode the TE from Maryland ...now Jason Campbell playing pitsburgh they come with an all out blitz he isn't sure if it's coming and decides to run out of the pocket, but gets smacked into the sidelines by Lawrence timmons...just one thing I like about colt than Campbell,

Yes, I remember that play, and I also remember thinking that, if he had thrown that ball against a first team defense, it would have been intercepted.

Comparing Colt against the Jets' third team with JC against the league's best defense is as unfair as it is foolhardy.

[JLW428]

Originally Posted by Nflnick11

True, most of the time snyder doesn't make good decisions, but I think that he was on to something with getting cutler, cause cutler isn't a wimp throwing the ball like Campbell. He may throw more picks than Campbell, but he also throws twice as many TDs as Campbell, thus scoring more points, therefore a much better chance of winning the game with a highly touted defense like ours, this is why I like colt, cause he also showed that he isn't afraid to throw the ball, like cutler....Campbell on the other hand is like " let's dump it off to the short route receiver or maybe I'll throw it deep to santana, but only if he's got his man beat by atleast four steps...". This won't change, he's a conservative quarterback, and to win in the NFL today you need to be able to just go out there and sling it...I think zorn wants to name colt the second QB during training camp, cause you can't name someone that with no cause...then I think he doesn't really need to tell Jason anymore that he's on the hot seat, but he'll definitley let him know that he isn't afraid to to give one of the backups the starting job..plus Campbell and zorn aren't idiots, they know that colts a fan favorite, and they read the message boards every once in a while and pobably this site too

As for me wishing an injury on Campbell, sure that's a bad thing to wish on someone (even tho I wish one on tom Brady every year) but A) I only wish campbell would get a hard hit or something that causes him to sit out for a quarter or so, not a season ending injury or a broken arm, foot, leg, or hand...I think an injury that's small is all it would tAke to put colt in with the first teamers, and see what he could really do, cause I don't think zorn well put him in after everything JCs been thru this offseason and telling him that he's our starting QB, plus I'll give one last chance to wow me or show me that he's improved in his second year in the offense, but as soon as he shows me nothing has changed, bring on the cult of colt!

1) Cuttler had the most picks in the NFL last year.

2) I think you may be the biggest Campbell hater I have ever seen (which is fine) but he is still our QB, and is going to be our QB so you might as well get get used to it.

3) You say Colt is such a fan favorite - remember back 2 years ago when everyone was chanting for Campbell? I'm sure you were one of those people. Point is - when a team isn't winning, the QB is the first to go to the chopping block. Take a look at our beat down OL and ask yourself is that the reason Jason can't get the ball off.

4) I saw Colt at the Greene Turtle in DC. There were a lot of people in there. NO ONE knew who he was or was trying to take pictures, autographs, etc. Infact, when I approached him to ask for a picture a man sitting near him asked his buddy "who is that?" Big fan favorite I guess...

[Nflnick11]

Originally Posted by JLW428

1) Cuttler had the most picks in the NFL last year.

2) I think you may be the biggest Campbell hater I have ever seen (which is fine) but he is still our QB, and is going to be our QB so you might as well get get used to it.

3) You say Colt is such a fan favorite - remember back 2 years ago when everyone was chanting for Campbell? I'm sure you were one of those people. Point is - when a team isn't winning, the QB is the first to go to the chopping block. Take a look at our beat down OL and ask yourself is that the reason Jason can't get the ball off.

4) I saw Colt at the Greene Turtle in DC. There were a lot of people in there. NO ONE knew who he was or was trying to take pictures, autographs, etc. Infact, when I approached him to ask for a picture a man sitting near him asked his buddy "who is that?" Big fan favorite I guess...

Ok your first point is the only decent one, the others just killed your chances of me and you arguing/debating, cause I just realized I'm talkin' to an idiot, but since I love debating...who gives a flying F if you went to the green turtle and no one talked to colt, you know how many current or former NFL players you see a year and don't realize who they are?????and if you think I'm the biggest hater on JC you haven't not been to enough sports bars in the area, and yes I was on the Campbell bandwagon for a while, but I thought he would change/get better but that hasn't happened

And if you think our oline is bad how come big ben can play a whole season with their oline which allowed the most sAcks in the league and he wins a super bowl (ya I know they had the best defense, but ours wasn't to far off and we had a much better RB then theirs)

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Nflnick11

Ok your first point is the only decent one, the others just killed your chances of me and you arguing/debating, cause I just realized I'm talkin' to an idiot, but since I love debating...who gives a flying F if you went to the green turtle and no one talked to colt, you know how many current or former NFL players you see a year and don't realize who they are?????and if you think I'm the biggest hater on JC you haven't not been to enough sports bars in the area, and yes I was on the Campbell bandwagon for a while, but I thought he would change/get better but that hasn't happened

And if you think our oline is bad how come big ben can play a whole season with their oline which allowed the most sAcks in the league and he wins a super bowl (ya I know they had the best defense, but ours wasn't to far off and we had a much better RB then theirs)

Actually JC has gotten better. Look at JC's stats and you will see continual improvement despite the fact that he has not been a starter very long.

[redskinsgirl]

Originally Posted by Nflnick11

Ok your first point is the only decent one, the others just killed your chances of me and you arguing/debating, cause I just realized I'm talkin' to an idiot, but since I love debating...who gives a flying F if you went to the green turtle and no one talked to colt, you know how many current or former NFL players you see a year and don't realize who they are?????and if you think I'm the biggest hater on JC you haven't not been to enough sports bars in the area, and yes I was on the Campbell bandwagon for a while, but I thought he would change/get better but that hasn't happened

And if you think our oline is bad how come big ben can play a whole season with their oline which allowed the most sAcks in the league and he wins a super bowl (ya I know they had the best defense, but ours wasn't to far off and we had a much better RB then theirs)

The skins defense wasn't that far off from the steelers??? You have to be joking. There was a big difference between the #1 defense compared to our team #4 defense. Don't let the #4 ranking fool you into think the skins defense was on the same level as Pitt. The Steeler were ranked 3rd in sacking the Qb of opposing teams compared to for the skins ranking 28th. The Steelers sacked the QB 51 times. The Steelers had one safety and return two of those fumbles for TDs off those sacks. The skins sack the QB 24 times and return none the fumbles for a TD. The skins also had zero safeties. The Steelers ranked 6th interceptions whereas the skins ranked 17th. The Steelers had 20 int compared to the skins 13. The Steelers returned 2 TDs from those interceptions. How many int did the skins defense return for a TD?? Zero.


Big Ben had 17 TDS, 14 int, threw for about 3,300 yds(80.1 rating) whereas JC had 13 TDs, 6 int, and threw for about 3200 yards (qb rating 84.3) There stats are very close.



According to you the skins have a better QB and Oline, but still couldn't make the playoffs and your suggesting it is due solely to JC.


Flacco threw for less yards, but one more TD than Campbell
Collins threw for less yards, but one less TD than Campbell
Delhomme threw for about 50 more yards, two more TDs than Campbell.


The Panthers, Titans, and even Bmore made the playoffs with subpar QB play, but the skins couldn't??

What these stats show is that other teams can have subpar QB play/ make the playoffs and still win a superbowl. How come the skins can't????


This shows maybe the problem with the skins last year was more than just the QB.

[JLW428]

Originally Posted by Nflnick11

Ok your first point is the only decent one, the others just killed your chances of me and you arguing/debating, cause I just realized I'm talkin' to an idiot, but since I love debating...who gives a flying F if you went to the green turtle and no one talked to colt, you know how many current or former NFL players you see a year and don't realize who they are?????and if you think I'm the biggest hater on JC you haven't not been to enough sports bars in the area, and yes I was on the Campbell bandwagon for a while, but I thought he would change/get better but that hasn't happened

And if you think our oline is bad how come big ben can play a whole season with their oline which allowed the most sAcks in the league and he wins a super bowl (ya I know they had the best defense, but ours wasn't to far off and we had a much better RB then theirs)

Settle down first of all. Second, I would hesitate on calling people idiots with grammar like that.

My only point was that I think it is a little rash to be asking for Campbell to get hurt in order see our third string QB come in. Especially when the chances of him doing well are very slim.

As for Pittsburgh, yeah, Ben is a better QB than Campbell. What else do you want me to say about that situation? Im not really sure of the point you're trying to make - they mesh better as a whole than Washington does.

Finally, you're a dick.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Nflnick11

True, most of the time snyder doesn't make good decisions, but I think that he was on to something with getting cutler, cause cutler isn't a wimp throwing the ball like Campbell. He may throw more picks than Campbell, but he also throws twice as many TDs as Campbell, thus scoring more points, therefore a much better chance of winning the game with a highly touted defense like ours, this is why I like colt, cause he also showed that he isn't afraid to throw the ball, like cutler....Campbell on the other hand is like " let's dump it off to the short route receiver or maybe I'll throw it deep to santana, but only if he's got his man beat by atleast four steps...". This won't change, he's a conservative quarterback, and to win in the NFL today you need to be able to just go out there and sling it...I think zorn wants to name colt the second QB during training camp, cause you can't name someone that with no cause...then I think he doesn't really need to tell Jason anymore that he's on the hot seat, but he'll definitley let him know that he isn't afraid to to give one of the backups the starting job..plus Campbell and zorn aren't idiots, they know that colts a fan favorite, and they read the message boards every once in a while and pobably this site too

As for me wishing an injury on Campbell, sure that's a bad thing to wish on someone (even tho I wish one on tom Brady every year) but A) I only wish campbell would get a hard hit or something that causes him to sit out for a quarter or so, not a season ending injury or a broken arm, foot, leg, or hand...I think an injury that's small is all it would tAke to put colt in with the first teamers, and see what he could really do, cause I don't think zorn well put him in after everything JCs been thru this offseason and telling him that he's our starting QB, plus I'll give one last chance to wow me or show me that he's improved in his second year in the offense, but as soon as he shows me nothing has changed, bring on the cult of colt!

I pray two things:
1) that both Zorn and Campbell are too busy trying to improve to ever read message boards or this site.

2) that what fans think has no influence over Zorn's personnel decisions, even if he does read fan opinions. To have fans influencing the thinking of football professionals is the height of lunacy.

Luckily I think that both of my prayers have already been answered.