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Old 07-06-2009, 07:50 PM   #1
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Re: Colt Brennan Says He'll "Play A Ton" In The Preseason

My question to you and Buchanan is how come other teams with subpar QB play can still make the playoffs and even win superbowls, but the skins can't

What does Matt Ryan have that JC doesnt?? both have a good running back behind them and we have a better D than ATL. defenses stack the line to slow CP yet JC cant take advantage. thats how those one on one situations like i showed earlier happen. But JC throws short more often than not. stats dont lie. 0 tds on 3rd down.
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My question to you and Buchanan is how come other teams with subpar QB play can still make the playoffs and even win superbowls, but the skins can't

What does Matt Ryan have that JC doesnt?? both have a good running back behind them and we have a better D than ATL. defenses stack the line to slow CP yet JC cant take advantage. thats how those one on one situations like i showed earlier happen. But JC throws short more often than not. stats dont lie. 0 tds on 3rd down.
Matt Ryan didn't do much more than JC last season. Matt Ryan threw 3 more TDS and for about 200 more yards and had more ints. I am confused, were you trying to show that Matt Ryan was way better than J.C last season???

So are you saying if QB doesn't throw tds on 3rd downs then he can't win games???

You still didn't answer my question.

You still didn't explain why QBs who played worse or about the same as JC, teams still made the playoffs?
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Re: Colt Brennan Says He'll "Play A Ton" In The Preseason

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What does Matt Ryan have that JC doesnt?? both have a good running back behind them and we have a better D than ATL. defenses stack the line to slow CP yet JC cant take advantage. thats how those one on one situations like i showed earlier happen. But JC throws short more often than not. stats dont lie. 0 tds on 3rd down.
I think, this is a good argument you just made.

My point would be this: Matt Ryan has only 11 career wins. One of those was a comeback win, and it was a great comeback (over Chicago), but his game winning drive lasted one play, and six seconds, so it was less of a great comeback than a single excellent throw. At this point next year, Jason Campbell could be a pro bowl quarterback...and Matt Ryan could still be the better QB of the two. Not being as good as Matt Ryan does not imply failure.

I also think that what you are perceiving as a Campbell problem (poor third down passing production) is an entire offense problem. Campbell is not exempt from that, but out of all those third down failures, it comes back to perhaps 3-6 offensive third down plays where you could say that Jason Campbell did not execute. The rest falls on the players around him.

I definitely don't agree with your conclusion, but I think you handle evidence better than either irish, or nflnick11.
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