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Old 07-06-2009, 11:17 PM   #1
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Re: Colt Brennan Says He'll "Play A Ton" In The Preseason

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A little bit more stats...



Great analysis there, you forgot to compare JC to Brady and Payton Manning (if you are looking for an easy argument I guess) . Anyway, Warner is an old QB and did pretty good throughout the season. It helped that AZ only allowed 28 sacks (tied 11th for the least sacks allowed) and he had two Pro Bowl wideouts (and arguably the best WR in Fitzgerald). Now, if you had thought about it a bit more (but I guess since you don't like stats), you could've made the argument that Warner won without having a running game (ranked at the bottom in the league) and with a crappy defense. However, I'm sure someone would have easily point out that the NFC West wasn't that competitive, allowing AZ to win the division with just one more win that our team, and the fact that AZ's defense came alive and finally complimented the offense during the playoffs.
Sacks and pass protection aren't always directly related. Warner is known for punishing the blitz with quick and accurate strikes, so teams think twice about being overly aggressive with him. JC, on the other hand, hasn't shown the ability to consistently keep defenses honest with his quick decision making, so teams come after him with everything they have, which can skew the sack numbers and make the O-line look bad.

Yes, the O-line could have played better, the receivers don't scare anyone and the offensive coaching could just be lousy for all that we know. But if the QB hangs onto the ball too long and needs receivers to be wide open before he's willing to get rid of the ball, then he's part of the reason he keeps getting knocked on his ass. JC doesn't deserve all of the blame, but he's not entirely blameless either.
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Sacks and pass protection aren't always directly related. Warner is known for punishing the blitz with quick and accurate strikes, so teams think twice about being overly aggressive with him. JC, on the other hand, hasn't shown the ability to consistently keep defenses honest with his quick decision making, so teams come after him with everything they have, which can skew the sack numbers and make the O-line look bad.

Yes, the O-line could have played better, the receivers don't scare anyone and the offensive coaching could just be lousy for all that we know. But if the QB hangs onto the ball too long and needs receivers to be wide open before he's willing to get rid of the ball, then he's part of the reason he keeps getting knocked on his ass. JC doesn't deserve all of the blame, but he's not entirely blameless either.
I'm not saying that you are one, but if all JC-haters would mention this every once in a while, it would have saved me from doing a lot of typing tonite.
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Sacks and pass protection aren't always directly related. Warner is known for punishing the blitz with quick and accurate strikes, so teams think twice about being overly aggressive with him. JC, on the other hand, hasn't shown the ability to consistently keep defenses honest with his quick decision making, so teams come after him with everything they have, which can skew the sack numbers and make the O-line look bad.

Yes, the O-line could have played better, the receivers don't scare anyone and the offensive coaching could just be lousy for all that we know. But if the QB hangs onto the ball too long and needs receivers to be wide open before he's willing to get rid of the ball, then he's part of the reason he keeps getting knocked on his ass. JC doesn't deserve all of the blame, but he's not entirely blameless either.
Finally a voice of reason
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Old 07-06-2009, 11:23 PM   #4
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Exactly you guys are argueing with a video. i guess it was all fixed. computer generated and all..the man should be fired
No, we are arguing with your delusional self who keeps bringing up this video like it is the NFL bible.

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An argument with facts that points out both negative and positive aspects of a player, yep that's what a reasonable argument looks like.
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True, but it's not like others haven't been saying that as well
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Sacks and pass protection aren't always directly related. Warner is known for punishing the blitz with quick and accurate strikes, so teams think twice about being overly aggressive with him. JC, on the other hand, hasn't shown the ability to consistently keep defenses honest with his quick decision making, so teams come after him with everything they have, which can skew the sack numbers and make the O-line look bad.

Yes, the O-line could have played better, the receivers don't scare anyone and the offensive coaching could just be lousy for all that we know. But if the QB hangs onto the ball too long and needs receivers to be wide open before he's willing to get rid of the ball, then he's part of the reason he keeps getting knocked on his ass. JC doesn't deserve all of the blame, but he's not entirely blameless either.
Good analysis.
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Re: Colt Brennan Says He'll "Play A Ton" In The Preseason

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Sacks and pass protection aren't always directly related. Warner is known for punishing the blitz with quick and accurate strikes, so teams think twice about being overly aggressive with him. JC, on the other hand, hasn't shown the ability to consistently keep defenses honest with his quick decision making, so teams come after him with everything they have, which can skew the sack numbers and make the O-line look bad.

Yes, the O-line could have played better, the receivers don't scare anyone and the offensive coaching could just be lousy for all that we know. But if the QB hangs onto the ball too long and needs receivers to be wide open before he's willing to get rid of the ball, then he's part of the reason he keeps getting knocked on his ass. JC doesn't deserve all of the blame, but he's not entirely blameless either.
Good post, 44, though I wouldn't say our sack numbers have been skewed at all. Some of that's on Campbell (you pointed this out), and a lot of it's on his protection (which includes missed blocks by Yoder and Portis and all the plays where Rabach had the wrong sort on).
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