Colt Brennan Says He'll "Play A Ton" In The Preseason

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by redskinsgirl

Look at all the Steelers game last season. They had similar problems to the skins: injured RB, bad oline, QB didn't throw over 20 TDs, but yet they still managed to average 21 ppg and even win a superbowl. Big Ben held the ball too long, checkdown, etc. He did alot of the things you complained JC did, but look how Tomlin put Ben in better situtations than Zorn put Cambpell in.

That's actually a pretty fair comparison between the Skins and Steelers. The Steeleres, however, have a much better playmaking defense. I know you referenced that earlier in your post, I just didn't want to copy the whole thing. The difference between the Skins D and the Ravens/Steelers was that the Skins got stops, but they didn't make plays. Very few sacks, not many turnovers and no touchdowns. The #4 ranking is totally based on yards, but they were nowhere near the caliber of the Steelers or Ravens D last year.

To get back to the offense and your comparison. The Steelers had many of the same issues. Big Ben holds the ball forever and can sometimes escape defenders, but often, he creates sacks by holding the ball. They're O Line is also much maligned, much like the Skins and they were able to go all the way. The difference, as I see it? They have guys who are reliable at receiver.

Santonio Holmes or Hines Ward would be the #1 wide out on this team and I would say that Nate Washington would have been the #2. They had playmakers at wide out, the Skins have Santana and he never stays healthy. The wide receiver corps for the Skins has been very inconsistent for a long time. Even when Santana's healthy, he still drops a lot of balls.

I'm not trying to put all of the blame on the receivers, but one of the last games I was able to watch was the Bengals game. On the first/second drive alone there were 2 consecutive passes that would have gone for first downs and at least 3 others that game where the ball was dropped. There were a lot of drops last season, the whole offense was inconsistent, not just Jason. After the O Line got banged up, Clinton was slumping, Jason was missing some guys and receivers were dropping balls. To say that it was totally Jason holding the team back is just ignorant, there was little about the offense that was good at the end of the season last year.

[Lotus]

Oh, look, NFLNick the Cowboys troll is back!

Since you singled me out, I will respond: you keep calling me a JC fan but I never said that. I simply said that your arguments were flawed and uneducated. Please stop putting words in my mouth and please start being at least a little self-aware and self-critical.

redskinsgirl ran circles around you because she produced evidence for her points and you did not. Gender has nothing to do with it; the ability to argue with evidence does. Based solely on your arguments, redskinsgirl is a much more knowledgeable fan than you are. Please learn a lesson here.

You argued more than once that a Redskins player should get hurt. No true Redskins fan would ever make such an argument but a Cowboys fan would. Please go back to the Cowboys site and stop trolling here.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Oh, look, NFLNick the Cowboys troll is back!

Since you singled me out, I will respond: you keep calling me a JC fan but I never said that. I simply said that your arguments were flawed and uneducated. Please stop putting words in my mouth and please start being at least a little self-aware and self-critical.

redskinsgirl ran circles around you because she produced evidence for her points and you did not. Gender has nothing to do with it; the ability to argue with evidence does. Based solely on your arguments, redskinsgirl is a much more knowledgeable fan than you are. Please learn a lesson here.

You argued more than once that a Redskins player should get hurt. No true Redskins fan would ever make such an argument but a Cowboys fan would. Please go back to the Cowboys site and stop trolling here.

Please, I've seen Cowboy fans on this site say better things about Jason Campbell than this guy (or make better arguments). But my money would be on him being a Cowboy fan.

[Nflnick11]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Oh, look, NFLNick the Cowboys troll is back!

Since you singled me out, I will respond: you keep calling me a JC fan but I never said that. I simply said that your arguments were flawed and uneducated. Please stop putting words in my mouth and please start being at least a little self-aware and self-critical.

redskinsgirl ran circles around you because she produced evidence for her points and you did not. Gender has nothing to do with it; the ability to argue with evidence does. Based solely on your arguments, redskinsgirl is a much more knowledgeable fan than you are. Please learn a lesson here.

You argued more than once that a Redskins player should get hurt. No true Redskins fan would ever make such an argument but a Cowboys fan would. Please go back to the Cowboys site and stop trolling here.

I pretty sure I put your name down but anyways I asked her what a subpar QB is in Her book and she never gavely me a clear answer and I'm pretty sure I answered her question back on page 8 or 9 of the thread talkin' about all the QBs of the playoffs...I'm still waiting for YOU and redskin girl and everyone else whose question my thoughts on JC to rank him with other QBs in league, but like one of you said to me I beat around the facts and give opinions, but you all do the same here ...you still cannot call me a cowboys fan, that's one of the biggest disrespectful things you can say to me considering I'm most likely a bigger fan than you, having gone to all 8 games last year, then rewatching them twice I own four current skins jerseys, go to pretty much all the skins charity events and autograph signings, have met about 20 or so of the players on the team, and always am talkin' smack with cowboy eagle and steeler fans that I'm neighbors with or work with and yes I would stick up for Jason just like you all are doing for him right now, so for you to say that I'm a cowboys fan, your dead wrong, I know way more about the skins than you do...now answer my question where would you rank JC among QBs in the NFL??

[redskinsgirl]

Originally Posted by jdlea

That's actually a pretty fair comparison between the Skins and Steelers. The Steeleres, however, have a much better playmaking defense. I know you referenced that earlier in your post, I just didn't want to copy the whole thing. The difference between the Skins D and the Ravens/Steelers was that the Skins got stops, but they didn't make plays. Very few sacks, not many turnovers and no touchdowns. The #4 ranking is totally based on yards, but they were nowhere near the caliber of the Steelers or Ravens D last year.

To get back to the offense and your comparison. The Steelers had many of the same issues. Big Ben holds the ball forever and can sometimes escape defenders, but often, he creates sacks by holding the ball. They're O Line is also much maligned, much like the Skins and they were able to go all the way. The difference, as I see it? They have guys who are reliable at receiver.

Santonio Holmes or Hines Ward would be the #1 wide out on this team and I would say that Nate Washington would have been the #2. They had playmakers at wide out, the Skins have Santana and he never stays healthy. The wide receiver corps for the Skins has been very inconsistent for a long time. Even when Santana's healthy, he still drops a lot of balls.

I'm not trying to put all of the blame on the receivers, but one of the last games I was able to watch was the Bengals game. On the first/second drive alone there were 2 consecutive passes that would have gone for first downs and at least 3 others that game where the ball was dropped. There were a lot of drops last season, the whole offense was inconsistent, not just Jason. After the O Line got banged up, Clinton was slumping, Jason was missing some guys and receivers were dropping balls. To say that it was totally Jason holding the team back is just ignorant, there was little about the offense that was good at the end of the season last year.

You nailed it right on the head. Having playmakers (besides the QB) on both sides of the balls is what seperates the skins last season from teams like the Giants, Steelers, Raven etc. For some reason Buch and NFlnick don't get it. You don't have to have a great QB to win games. The last two superbowls were won with QBs who "stastically" played about the same or worse than Campbell. Big Ben is more "clutch" than Campbell, but is that solely due to Big Ben been a better decision maker? How much does other factors such coaching/playcalling, receivers(running good routes/catching balls) come into play for a QB to become "clutch"?

JC may not be the answer, but who is to say Brennan is. Just because he did well in games that don't count doesn't he will play the same during regular season. As I stated before he didn't have the pressure in preseason he will have during the regular season. Its easy to rack up a ton of yards in preseason because defenses aren't really playing up to their full potential. So are you saying since Brennan played better than JC than he should have started??? Well following your logic McMullen played better than Moss in preseason, so we should have kept McMullen and let him started over Moss right? Mason played better than Portis, so we should have made Portis the #2 back and made Mason the #1???

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by jdlea

That's actually a pretty fair comparison between the Skins and Steelers. The Steeleres, however, have a much better playmaking defense. I know you referenced that earlier in your post, I just didn't want to copy the whole thing. The difference between the Skins D and the Ravens/Steelers was that the Skins got stops, but they didn't make plays. Very few sacks, not many turnovers and no touchdowns. The #4 ranking is totally based on yards, but they were nowhere near the caliber of the Steelers or Ravens D last year.

To get back to the offense and your comparison. The Steelers had many of the same issues. Big Ben holds the ball forever and can sometimes escape defenders, but often, he creates sacks by holding the ball. They're O Line is also much maligned, much like the Skins and they were able to go all the way. The difference, as I see it? They have guys who are reliable at receiver.

Santonio Holmes or Hines Ward would be the #1 wide out on this team and I would say that Nate Washington would have been the #2. They had playmakers at wide out, the Skins have Santana and he never stays healthy. The wide receiver corps for the Skins has been very inconsistent for a long time. Even when Santana's healthy, he still drops a lot of balls.

I'm not trying to put all of the blame on the receivers, but one of the last games I was able to watch was the Bengals game. On the first/second drive alone there were 2 consecutive passes that would have gone for first downs and at least 3 others that game where the ball was dropped. There were a lot of drops last season, the whole offense was inconsistent, not just Jason. After the O Line got banged up, Clinton was slumping, Jason was missing some guys and receivers were dropping balls. To say that it was totally Jason holding the team back is just ignorant, there was little about the offense that was good at the end of the season last year.

I'd say that sums it up pretty well. That and a lack of a scoring/turnover abled defense usually won't get you but so far.

[DBUCHANON101]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

I'd say that sums it up pretty well. That and a lack of a scoring/turnover abled defense usually won't get you but so far.

So our 6th ranked scoring defense isnt good enough? funny how teams 1-5 in scoring defense ALL MADE THE PLAYOFFS! Last i checked it was the defenses primary job to stop the other team from scoring.. not to have to score 2 tds a game on int and fumble returns. If we are at that point where they have to do that each week for us to win.WE DONT DESERVE TO MAKE THE PLAYOFFS IMO
And enough of ppl blaming the O-line for JC's woes,other than the Steeler game,which they did play terrible in that game they did a good job keeping JC upright.
There wasn't a very big difference in the o-line's play outside the Pittsburgh game, which skews the statistics and apparently minds
In the last 8 games JC was sacked 22 times if i remember right, and thats counting the 7 sack Steeler game. so thats 15 in the last 7 games. the first 8 games he was sacked 16 times. Not a big difference.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

So our 6th ranked scoring defense isnt good enough? funny how teams 1-5 in scoring defense ALL MADE THE PLAYOFFS! Last i checked it was the defenses primary job to stop the other team from scoring.. not to have to score 2 tds a game on int and fumble returns. If we are at that point where they have to do that each week for us to win.WE DONT DESERVE TO MAKE THE PLAYOFFS IMO
And enough of ppl blaming the O-line for JC's woes,other than the Steeler game,which they did play terrible in that game they did a good job keeping JC upright.
There wasn't a very big difference in the o-line's play outside the Pittsburgh game, which skews the statistics and apparently minds
In the last 8 games JC was sacked 22 times if i remember right, and thats counting the 7 sack Steeler game. so thats 15 in the last 7 games. the first 8 games he was sacked 16 times. Not a big difference.

Apparently not. The Steelers had the 20th ranked scoring offense. That's right.... 20th. Not very good huh? The difference is their defense allowed almost 5 points a game less than the Redskins. We lost 3 games by less than 5 points. Those 3 losses turned into wins would have put us at 11-5 and in the playoffs. Our 4 highest draft picks were used on defense. Why? Can you answer that? Apparently the thought is this "6th ranked" defense isn't good enough. Your posts are sounding more like all the time. Try seeing the big picture if you can.

[DBUCHANON101]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Apparently not. The Steelers had the 20th ranked scoring offense. That's right.... 20th. Not very good huh? The difference is their defense allowed almost 5 points a game less than the Redskins. We lost 3 games by less than 5 points. Those 3 losses turned into wins would have put us at 11-5 and in the playoffs. Our 4 highest draft picks were used on defense. Why? Can you answer that? Apparently the thought is this "6th ranked" defense isn't good enough. Your posts are sounding more like all the time. Try seeing the big picture if you can.

Maybe because they used most of our picks the yr before on OFFENSE.
Thomas
Kelly
Davis
Brennan
Rhinehart - i believe he was a 3rd rounder.
And lets not forget the kicker who didnt make the team from GT.

[DBUCHANON101]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Apparently not. The Steelers had the 20th ranked scoring offense. That's right.... 20th. Not very good huh? The difference is their defense allowed almost 5 points a game less than the Redskins. We lost 3 games by less than 5 points. Those 3 losses turned into wins would have put us at 11-5 and in the playoffs. Our 4 highest draft picks were used on defense. Why? Can you answer that? Apparently the thought is this "6th ranked" defense isn't good enough. Your posts are sounding more like all the time. Try seeing the big picture if you can.

1. lost to the RAMS 19-17
2. Lost to the Cowboys 14-10
3. Lost to the 9ers 27-24

Ill give you the 9er game because they scored in the high 20's but the other 2 hmm.. to say the defense lost those games with the other team scoring under 20 pts is just crazy.