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Old 07-10-2009, 10:27 AM   #1
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Receivers are only as good as their QB. See Roddy White, Wes Welker, DeSean Jackson, the entire Saints receiving corps and all those scrubs Tom Brady made look good (Deion Branch, Troy Brown, etc.) before Moss and Welker got there.

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I agree, Moss has gamebreaking ability -see Dallas and Saints game- and Cooley is a great weapon at TE. so we shouldnt be struggling the way we are,someone else has to step up with those guys getting all of the attention. 13 pts a game over the 2nd half is terrible. and the oline had the same avg of sacks allowed per game over the 2nd half of the season if you dont count the Steeler game-7 sacks. in which they did play bad but it also skews the stats as a whole.
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Old 07-10-2009, 12:00 PM   #2
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I agree, Moss has gamebreaking ability -see Dallas and Saints game- and Cooley is a great weapon at TE. so we shouldnt be struggling the way we are,someone else has to step up with those guys getting all of the attention. 13 pts a game over the 2nd half is terrible. and the oline had the same avg of sacks allowed per game over the 2nd half of the season if you dont count the Steeler game-7 sacks. in which they did play bad but it also skews the stats as a whole.
Yeah, and there's no reason they shouldn't have done better against the niners when absolutely nothing was on the line. I can understand needing an above average to dominant O line to be successful against the best defenses in the league, but there are no excuses against the likes of the Bengals, Rams and 49ers. Beating a dead horse I know, but there were a lot of other teams with weak receivers and dinged up offensive lines that still managed to field a credible passing attack and put more than 12 points a game on the board. They'll be better this year.
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Old 07-10-2009, 12:55 PM   #3
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Re: Football Outsider win predictions

I find two things from 2008 to be fluky:
1) that such a quality defense would get so few turnovers (turnovers are part-skill, part-luck), and
2) that Cooley scored only once. From his stats you can't argue that Cooley had a bad year or that JC could not find him.

To me, the law of averages will have to rectify both of these flukes...and 2009 is a good time for the law of averages to catch up!
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Yeah, and there's no reason they shouldn't have done better against the niners when absolutely nothing was on the line. I can understand needing an above average to dominant O line to be successful against the best defenses in the league, but there are no excuses against the likes of the Bengals, Rams and 49ers. Beating a dead horse I know, but there were a lot of other teams with weak receivers and dinged up offensive lines that still managed to field a credible passing attack and put more than 12 points a game on the board. They'll be better this year.
I think the explanation to this is simply having one of the worst, if not the worst, oline in the league over the long haul. It's not an easy pill to swallow but thinking about how that group was absolutely destroyed by Pitt, Baltimore, NY and Dallas during the 2nd half of the season then it's no surprise the oline never recovered...so even the Bengals, Rams the niners were a challenge.

It's interesting to see how focus on the state of the oline has waned this off-season within the franchise and fanbase. I want to believe we've done enough to avoid another collapse, but i can't agree w/ how our FO has handled the situation. We're literally one injury away from the line falling to pieces (Samuels) and if any two of the other starters went down the offense would grind to halt.
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Old 07-10-2009, 03:22 PM   #5
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Yeah, and there's no reason they shouldn't have done better against the niners when absolutely nothing was on the line. I can understand needing an above average to dominant O line to be successful against the best defenses in the league, but there are no excuses against the likes of the Bengals, Rams and 49ers. Beating a dead horse I know, but there were a lot of other teams with weak receivers and dinged up offensive lines that still managed to field a credible passing attack and put more than 12 points a game on the board. They'll be better this year.
I agree
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Yeah, and there's no reason they shouldn't have done better against the niners when absolutely nothing was on the line. ...
It was all part of the masterful subterfuge, which led us to get Orakpo, and have all the media downplay our abilities. Thus astounding all when Orakpo opens against the Giants with 3 sacks on Manning while big ole AH shuts down Jacobs. LL won't be havin' to make no last minute stops this time 'round!

Is it September yet?

Edit: Did I mention D Halls 2 TD Int returns and Santana's PR for a TD. 21-0 And I haven't even started with Marko Mitchell streaking down for the 80 yd TD
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