Some Zorn Story...But It Hints at Campbell Getting Paid

[GTripp0012]

It's interesting that Jet Favre is just a hair up the way on the same trendline from Campbell. Favre was a major dunker last year, which made him a surprise top five inclusion on the accuracy list.

The league MVP was just a little farther up on the same trendline.

Translation: this offense can work.

[GTripp0012]

What I'm struggling with explaining is how the offense rebounded for two weeks in the middle of the second half.

Against Seattle, and against the Giants, their opponent adjusted numbers on offense are above their season average (which itself, is weighted up by the run in weeks 2-5). This was coming off their worst five games stretch of the season (Week 6-Week 11).

There was some adjustment that Zorn made that got the offense functioning again, despite the overall decline of the unit. It wasn't until the Baltimore game that we finally got overmatched in terms of injuries of personnel.

That's my project for this week. Find out what Zorn corrected in the middle of November that got the offense working again, and why they were a non-functional group for most of the middle of the season.

[GTripp0012]

For those who are interested, I have week by week DVOA graphs for the 2008 season up on my blog.

2008 Redskins DVOA Graphs - Hog Heaven

[DBUCHANON101]

Tarvaris Jackson | Vikings | Interested: Redskins? Rams? Seahawks?
During an appearance on the NFL Network, Michael Lombardi indicated that he's "been hearing talk" that Tarvaris Jackson may demand a trade if and when Brett Favre officially becomes a member of the Minnesota Vikings.
Jackson, just 26, is believed by some to possess the tools necessary to become a successful NFL signal-caller, but has yet to develop those tools into skills. If he does demand a trade, a team that runs the West Coast offense would be the best fit for his continued progression.

Latest on ESPN, apparently we are not too confident in our QB IF we are lookin at T-Jack.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

Tarvaris Jackson | Vikings | Interested: Redskins? Rams? Seahawks?
During an appearance on the NFL Network, Michael Lombardi indicated that he's "been hearing talk" that Tarvaris Jackson may demand a trade if and when Brett Favre officially becomes a member of the Minnesota Vikings.
Jackson, just 26, is believed by some to possess the tools necessary to become a successful NFL signal-caller, but has yet to develop those tools into skills. If he does demand a trade, a team that runs the West Coast offense would be the best fit for his continued progression.

Latest on ESPN, apparently we are not too confident in our QB IF we are lookin at T-Jack.

Tavaris would be at best a back up here in Washington. Besides, if there were any shred of truth, Mike Florio would be all over this.

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

Am I the only one who thinks its weird that the HC and the AC's go on tv and say how good the QB looks in practice yet we seem to go after just about every QB that hits the market?

Unless someone tells me/shows me concrete evidence that was going to get Sanchez, we've really gone after Cutler (as a true straight up replacement for Campbell).

The whole Tavaris Jackson is a pipe dream (I hope it is not a Danny pipe dream), and let's say theoretically they were to do this, I would hope and pray that this would be just as a back up. Besides, Jackson doesn't fit the gun slinger type that Danny goes gaga for. Otherwise, I think I would be just following college basketball from now on.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

Tarvaris Jackson | Vikings | Interested: Redskins? Rams? Seahawks?
During an appearance on the NFL Network, Michael Lombardi indicated that he's "been hearing talk" that Tarvaris Jackson may demand a trade if and when Brett Favre officially becomes a member of the Minnesota Vikings.
Jackson, just 26, is believed by some to possess the tools necessary to become a successful NFL signal-caller, but has yet to develop those tools into skills. If he does demand a trade, a team that runs the West Coast offense would be the best fit for his continued progression.

Latest on ESPN, apparently we are not too confident in our QB IF we are lookin at T-Jack.

I don't think you read the article right

[DBUCHANON101]

Am I the only one who thinks its weird that the HC and the AC's go on tv and say how good the QB looks in practice yet we seem to go after just about every QB that hits the market?

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

Am I the only one who thinks its weird that the HC and the AC's go on tv and say how good the QB looks in practice yet we seem to go after just about every QB that hits the market?

We have not gone after Jackson. The media just barfed some names in mindless speculation.

1) I don't see the Vikes trading Jackson, even if he demands such (which actually has not happened).

2) If Jackson were on the trading block, he is too erratic for Zorn to ever give him a thumbs-up.

3) Even if I were wrong about the above two points, Jackson would come as a backup, not a starter.

No offense but you are getting your feathers ruffled over nothing.

[MTK]

Sounds like Florio floating more of his turdy rumors

[GTripp0012]

If the Vikings end up releasing him upon signing Favre, I actually would potentially make a play to sign him to a two year or three year deal.

I'm not sure he (Jackson) has a future in this league as a starter, but I do think with a new start, he can be a productive player in his prime years. Plus he's probably not anything more than a backup here anyway, but has some career starts under his belt and provides more for us than Colt Brennan does.

[Ruhskins]

DBUCHANON101, I thought you posted your anti-JC rants here to piss off some of the homers (like me) here, but I see you carry the same philosophy on your ESPN comments:

dbuchanon101 (7/13/2009 at 10:52 PM)
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One can easily pin our poor play in the 2nd half of the season to the teams we played but our numbers dramatically changed...hmmmm Portis couldn't run anymore and sacks rose...which was not the case in the first half of the season...

Skins allowed an ave of 2 sacks a game the first eight. allowed 7 vs the steelers and allowed and avg of 2 sacks the last 7. One game kindof skews the stats but its not like JC was running for his life in the 2nd half not counting 1 game.

Although I didn't quite understand this post, for a moment I thought you were giving Campbell a compliment, although you are using the infamous "Video"

dbuchanon101 (7/14/2009 at 4:05 AM)
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NFL.com - Official Site of the National Football League videos/nfl-network-t otal-access/09000d5d 81069cc4/Can-Campbel l-get-it-done

Campbell has the talent. He is not the problem

Not ALL the blame goes on the Oline or Wrs. JC has his share of the blame also

If I understood this correctly though, I do agree with you that o-lines, WRs, and JC should share the blame of the offense's woes in the 2nd half of the season.

[bedlamVR]

I think what was missed in the 2-6 collapse is that Zorn in his first year as a HC with a first year offensive co-ordinator took a Gibbs team, remolded it in a WCO mold and finished 8-8 even ravaged by injury.

This is essentially the same group of players that the combined efforts of a HoF coach in Joe Gibbs, Gregg Williams and Al Saunders took to 5-11 in 06 and the same mix minus Saunders 6-10 in 04 ...

I feel real good about the Skins going forwards . I think the O line is still a ??? but time will tell . Thank god football is just around the corner

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by bedlamVR

I think what was missed in the 2-6 collapse is that Zorn in his first year as a HC with a first year offensive co-ordinator took a Gibbs team, remolded it in a WCO mold and finished 8-8 even ravaged by injury.

This is essentially the same group of players that the combined efforts of a HoF coach in Joe Gibbs, Gregg Williams and Al Saunders took to 5-11 in 06 and the same mix minus Saunders 6-10 in 04 ...

I feel real good about the Skins going forwards . I think the O line is still a ??? but time will tell . Thank god football is just around the corner

Players report for camp two weeks from today!

[DBUCHANON101]

Walsh started it in Cincy who at the time was an expansion team with a bad o-line and didnt have much talent at the RB position. It a situation like that you have to spread the defense out and keep them honest which by design helps open up running lanes.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

Walsh started it in Cincy who at the time was an expansion team with a bad o-line and didnt have much talent at the RB position. It a situation like that you have to spread the defense out and keep them honest which by design helps open up running lanes.

Yes, that is true. Walsh himself said so. Cincy's OL was terrible so they couldn't run, but Walsh the OC had to find some way to move the ball. So Walsh tried to devise a way to realize the same results as a running game.

That having been said, the WCO has morphed over the years since its birth. Rather than being a crutch for teams with no OL, it has developed into a philosophy to help teams with good OL's to dominate the game offensively.