Kevin and Pat Williams, guilty or not?

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

They ingested it themselves. Whether they knew or not doesn't take away the fact that they ingested on their own volition. To me ignorance isn't an excuse. I don't have a bad opinion of them but at the end of the day they took a banned substance. They should suffer the consequences. Now a lot of my feelings are mitigated by the fact that the league knew about this particular supplement and didn't tell players. To me, in that case because they failed to communicate properly, it totslly negates the players guilt. I'd just drop this if I were the league. But for me, in the future, if players take a banned substance they should reap the consequences regardless of intent or knowledge.

So if a girl has a drink that has been spiked with Rohypnol it is her fault and therefore should suffer the consequences because even though she trusted the guy that bought it for her she is essentially responsible for whatever she puts in her body? Or am I trying to compare Apples to Oranges?

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Angry

So if a girl has a drink that has been spiked with Rohypnol it is her fault and therefore should suffer the consequences because even though she trusted the guy that bought it for her she is essentially responsible for whatever she puts in her body? Or am I trying to compare Apples to Oranges?

That's Apples to Apples...and if she suspects she has been rapped she aught to pay for the rape-kit.