free oil , why are we hurting the environment ?

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by firstdown

You actually think we sould drill for our own oil? Thats really pushing the envelope. What would happen if we killed just one fish or one tree.
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Amazing. What's even more amazing is how much actual power the eco-nuts have over the politicians in this country when it comes to going after our own natural resources.

[budw38]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Amazing. What's even more amazing is how much actual power the eco-nuts have over the politicians in this country when it comes to going after our own natural resources.

You are correct . If most Americans could see the lack of impact on animal and plant life , I doubt they would care what the greenies say . In Ohio , there are dairy farms and corn fields within 500 yds of old oil wells , deer , fox , ect. I think its save to say that wildlife has already adapted to humans - developement .

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Amazing. What's even more amazing is how much actual power the eco-nuts have over the politicians in this country when it comes to going after our own natural resources.

The environmental lobby is incredibly slick in how they generate their massive amounts of funds.

Quick story, I had a Siberian Husky for almost 15 years, I get some mailer for a charity (can't remember the name) that (allegedly) rescued wolves, relocate them away from farms, and helped preserve their habitat. I sent them $ 50 once, but never sent in any more (despite the monthly junk-mail). A while later, I was reading about some of the eco-nut groups that were lobbying against drilling in ANWR and offshore and what do I see, but the name of the charity for the wolves....last time I donated to any charity without really doing my homework first.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

The environmental lobby is incredibly slick in how they generate their massive amounts of funds.

Quick story, I had a Siberian Husky for almost 15 years, I get some mailer for a charity (can't remember the name) that (allegedly) rescued wolves, relocate them away from farms, and helped preserve their habitat. I sent them $ 50 once, but never sent in any more (despite the monthly junk-mail). A while later, I was reading about some of the eco-nut groups that were lobbying against drilling in ANWR and offshore and what do I see, but the name of the charity for the wolves....last time I donated to any charity without really doing my homework first.

LOL...ANWR stands for Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and they do have wolves living there in need of protection from people like you who want to "drill baby drill." This is where charities in the business of "helping to preserve their habitat" come into the picture and so I wonder what is meant by "slick."


Funny story, usage of the initialism ANWR is preferred to using Arctic National Wildlife Refuge because it sounds friendlier and does not make one sound cruel and callous.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by saden1

LOL...ANWR stands for Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and they do have wolves living there in need of protection from people like you who want to "drill baby drill." This is where charities in the business of "helping to preserve their habitat" come into the picture and so I wonder what is meant by "slick."


Funny story, usage of the initialism ANWR is preferred to using Arctic National Wildlife Refuge because it sounds friendlier and does not make one sound cruel and callous.

So you'd rather preserve the habitat of wolves and see more Marines come home in body bags from the middle east?

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

So you'd rather preserve the habitat of wolves and see more Marines come home in body bags from the middle east?

No because I wouldn't send them to the middle east in the first place and I would bring them back home if they are. I would also give them training in the renewable energy sector. Maybe have them do a little farming work, manufacturing solar panels, putting up win windmills....you know, turn them all to into Army Core of Engineers types.

Just kidding, I would make a video game out of it and have them invade Saudi Arabia, Venezuela, and a host of other countries with oil. And if they come back home in body-bags, well, that's the price of war and they knew what they were signing up for voluntarily. Bush had his "Mission Accomplished" banner, I would have "Command and Conquer Bitcheeeees!" banner. Let the games begin!

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by saden1

No because I wouldn't send them to the middle east in the first place and I would bring them back home if they are. I would also give them training in the renewable energy sector. Maybe have them do a little farming work, manufacturing solar panels, putting up win windmills....you know, turn them all to into Army Core of Engineers types.

So you'd turn Marines into engineers and scientists in the field of renewable energy? Good luck with that.

I don't like the wars in the middle east either, but if we could drill for our own oil right here in the United States and cut down on imported oil from Iraq, Saudi Arabia and other shitstorms near Mesopotamia, I don't see how any clear-thinking, rational human being could be against that.

This isn't the 23rd century, and we aren't anywhere close to engines that run on warp technology, antimatter or gravity. So you and I, our children and maybe even their children can forget about replacing the internal combustion engine anytime soon. The bottom line is that we can get our own honey right here without seeking out swarming beehives halfway around the world and save lives in the process.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by saden1

LOL...ANWR stands for Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and they do have wolves living there in need of protection from people like you who want to "drill baby drill." This is where charities in the business of "helping to preserve their habitat" come into the picture and so I wonder what is meant by "slick."

The mail that I received had no mention of ANWR and was more geared to wolves who were venturing into human development. BTW, while there are wolves in ANWR there are only about 25-30 of them. I'm willing to spend the funds to relocate those wolves. Again to Beems point, I'd rather relocate a few wolves than have Americans dying in the Middle East or dying from a terrorist attack that was funded by oil revenue that originated from the U.S.

Arctic Refuge: Gray Wolf

Funny story, usage of the initialism ANWR is preferred to using Arctic National Wildlife Refuge because it sounds friendlier and does not make one sound cruel and callous.

Certainly wouldn't want to be cold & callous by using Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. Maybe I could make some non-cruel & callous joking references against Bush about U.S. servicemen & women coming home in body bags.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

The mail that I received had no mention of ANWR and was more geared to wolves who were venturing into human development. BTW, while there are wolves in ANWR there are only about 25-30 of them. I'm willing to spend the funds to relocate those wolves. Again to Beems point, I'd rather relocate a few wolves than have Americans dying in the Middle East or dying from a terrorist attack that was funded by oil revenue that originated from the U.S.

Arctic Refuge: Gray Wolf

Those guys do relocation work to, no? Honestly though, why relocate them when they have a perfect place to be fruitful and multiply?

Certainly wouldn't want to be cold & callous by using Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. Maybe I could make some non-cruel & callous joking references against Bush about U.S. servicemen & women coming home in body bags.

I'm all for keeping it real, and on the real tip that was a poor joke in response to a poor leading question.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by saden1

Those guys do relocation work to, no? Honestly though, why relocate them when they have a perfect place to be fruitful and multiply?

Cause I'm for putting a bunch of big, honkin' oil rigs up there, yee-haw! Drill, baby drill !!!!

[budw38]

Originally Posted by saden1

LOL...ANWR stands for Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and they do have wolves living there in need of protection from people like you who want to "drill baby drill." This is where charities in the business of "helping to preserve their habitat" come into the picture and so I wonder what is meant by "slick."


Funny story, usage of the initialism ANWR is preferred to using Arctic National Wildlife Refuge because it sounds friendlier and does not make one sound cruel and callous.

Yes , because the Wolves would hold there ground and we would drill right through there hearts and kill them . Do you have any idea how small of an area would actually be impacted ?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by budw38

Yes , because the Wolves would hold there ground and we would drill right through there hearts and kill them . Do you have any idea how small of an area would actually be impacted ?

Just make sure we can still use their fur for coats please!!