Redskins Select Jarmon in 3rd Round of Supplemental Draft

[53Fan]

Seems a bit high to me. Maybe Vinny's comfortable knowing we have a 1 and 2 next year. I just hope we're not bitchin' about it come draft day next year.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Seems a bit high to me. Maybe Vinny's comfortable knowing we have a 1 and 2 next year. I just hope we're not bitchin' about it come draft day next year.

Well, we'd be doing that either way I suppose.

I really don't know what to think, but seems high to me too. After this off-season, if our D takes even a small step back, I will be pretty disappointed.

I also don't expect him to do much this year, but if he is groomed to replace Daniels with Orakpo taking Carters spot next year, we may have done a sweet deal for the next 5-7 years.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Well, we'd be doing that either way I suppose.

I really don't know what to think, but seems high to me too. After this off-season, if our D takes even a small step back, I will be pretty disappointed.

I also don't expect him to do much this year, but if he is groomed to replace Daniels with Orakpo taking Carters spot next year, we may have done a sweet deal for the next 5-7 years.

That would be great! Let's hope so.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

A few thoughts:

1) Orakpo is our starting SLB for the forseeable future. He'll line up at DE no more than 20% of the time.
2) Renaldo Wynn and Alex Buzbee will be unemployed within 2 months.
3) I'm not terribly concerned about losing the 3rd rounder next year. I think Jarmon qualifies as 3rd round talent that we got for a 3rd rounder a year early. If we had wanted to select him in the 3rd round in THIS years draft (had he been eligible), we would have had to trade next years 2nd. Instead, we're geting him for a 3rd rounder a year earlier than we would have otherwise.
4) Why did Cerrato openly pimp this guy to the media last week? I'll tell you why - he wanted fans to get pumped up for this guy, so we would be less angry when we announced we were giving up a 3rd rounder for him.
5) We only have 5 draft picks next year. Most of our division rivals have twice that.
6) If we have a bad season, Zorn, Campbell, and Cerrato will all be gone next year.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

A few thoughts:

1) Orakpo is our starting SLB for the forseeable future. He'll line up at DE no more than 20% of the time. So you think Vinny, Zorn and Blache are all lying about him playing DE in passing situations?
2) Renaldo Wynn and Alex Buzbee will be unemployed within 2 months.
3) I'm not terribly concerned about losing the 3rd rounder next year. I think Jarmon qualifies as 3rd round talent that we got for a 3rd rounder a year early. If we had wanted to select him in the 3rd round in THIS years draft (had he been eligible), we would have had to trade next years 2nd. Instead, we're geting him for a 3rd rounder a year earlier than we would have otherwise.
4) Why did Cerrato openly pimp this guy to the media last week? I'll tell you why - he wanted fans to get pumped up for this guy, so we would be less angry when we announced we were giving up a 3rd rounder for him. Conspiracy much?
5) We only have 5 draft picks next year. Most of our division rivals have twice that. Only Philly has additional picks, 2 extra. If we don't make any trades we will net 6 players from the 2010 draft but will have an extra years experience out of one of them.
6) If we have a bad season, Zorn, Campbell, and Cerrato will all be gone next year.Nobody is going to dispute that

I don't see how this can be viewed as a bad move. We're going to have another player this season and while we're not using this pick in April we're still going to have our 2010 3rd round pick on the roster.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

A few thoughts:

1) Orakpo is our starting SLB for the forseeable future. He'll line up at DE no more than 20% of the time.
2) Renaldo Wynn and Alex Buzbee will be unemployed within 2 months.
3) I'm not terribly concerned about losing the 3rd rounder next year. I think Jarmon qualifies as 3rd round talent that we got for a 3rd rounder a year early. If we had wanted to select him in the 3rd round in THIS years draft (had he been eligible), we would have had to trade next years 2nd. Instead, we're geting him for a 3rd rounder a year earlier than we would have otherwise.
4) Why did Cerrato openly pimp this guy to the media last week? I'll tell you why - he wanted fans to get pumped up for this guy, so we would be less angry when we announced we were giving up a 3rd rounder for him.
5) We only have 5 draft picks next year. Most of our division rivals have twice that.
6) If we have a bad season, Zorn, Campbell, and Cerrato will all be gone next year.

IMO your logic is sound. I would want to give Z another year if we improved even modestly. A lot of talk has been going around about Z and Soup's future being intermingled. I think, as you suggest, that Z, Soup, and Cousin Vinny's future all depends on the team doing well this year. This pick will not impress me until I see him on gameday, Orakpo too. I'm just waiting for the receivers to step up.

[bigdaddy2348]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

A few thoughts:

1) Orakpo is our starting SLB for the forseeable future. He'll line up at DE no more than 20% of the time.
2) Renaldo Wynn and Alex Buzbee will be unemployed within 2 months.
3) I'm not terribly concerned about losing the 3rd rounder next year. I think Jarmon qualifies as 3rd round talent that we got for a 3rd rounder a year early. If we had wanted to select him in the 3rd round in THIS years draft (had he been eligible), we would have had to trade next years 2nd. Instead, we're geting him for a 3rd rounder a year earlier than we would have otherwise.
4) Why did Cerrato openly pimp this guy to the media last week? I'll tell you why - he wanted fans to get pumped up for this guy, so we would be less angry when we announced we were giving up a 3rd rounder for him.
5) We only have 5 draft picks next year. Most of our division rivals have twice that.
6) If we have a bad season, Zorn, Campbell, and Cerrato will all be gone next year.

We are on the same page I agree with all of that although I am not in the area so I couldn't see Vinny pimping this dude. One thing people forget is this guy may be a first rounder next year so we are getting a bargain still with a 3rd round pick. Yeah we could have tried to get him for a 4th rounder but who is to say we would have gotten him we need d-line help now and we can’t be playing around trying to be cheap.

[Eknox]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

A few thoughts:

1) Orakpo is our starting SLB for the forseeable future. He'll line up at DE no more than 20% of the time.
2) Renaldo Wynn and Alex Buzbee will be unemployed within 2 months.
3) I'm not terribly concerned about losing the 3rd rounder next year. I think Jarmon qualifies as 3rd round talent that we got for a 3rd rounder a year early. If we had wanted to select him in the 3rd round in THIS years draft (had he been eligible), we would have had to trade next years 2nd. Instead, we're geting him for a 3rd rounder a year earlier than we would have otherwise.
4) Why did Cerrato openly pimp this guy to the media last week? I'll tell you why - he wanted fans to get pumped up for this guy, so we would be less angry when we announced we were giving up a 3rd rounder for him.
5) We only have 5 draft picks next year. Most of our division rivals have twice that.
6) If we have a bad season, Zorn, Campbell, and Cerrato will all be gone next year.

totally agree

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

4) Why did Cerrato openly pimp this guy to the media last week? I'll tell you why - he wanted fans to get pumped up for this guy, so we would be less angry when we announced we were giving up a 3rd rounder for him.

Can people please stop saying that "we gave up a draft pick"? We drafted a freaking player. Giving up a draft pick means someone else gets to use it.

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

5) We only have 5 draft picks next year. Most of our division rivals have twice that.

Dallas had a million picks in this past draft, that doesn't make them better. It is how you use your picks. While one pick (#6) was use in an unfortunate mistake, the other pick (#3) was used (not given up) to draft a player.

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

6) If we have a bad season, Zorn, Campbell, and Cerrato will all be gone next year.

Also the sun rises in the East and sets in the West.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Well, we'd be doing that either way I suppose.

I really don't know what to think, but seems high to me too. After this off-season, if our D takes even a small step back, I will be pretty disappointed.

I also don't expect him to do much this year, but if he is groomed to replace Daniels with Orakpo taking Carters spot next year, we may have done a sweet deal for the next 5-7 years.

That was my thought as well.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Seems a bit high to me. Maybe Vinny's comfortable knowing we have a 1 and 2 next year. I just hope we're not bitchin' about it come draft day next year.

We're ~300 days before the next draft, plenty of time for Vinny to deal our top two picks