Redskins Select Jarmon in 3rd Round of Supplemental Draft

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by ethat001

To judge this, you merely have to ask -- was he worth the third round pick. From what we heard so far -- he probably is.

I disagree.
The only team to consider him a 3rd round pick was the Redskins.
31 other teams agree with me.

Don't be a sucker for Ceratto's post pick spin...that he was a 2nd round grade crap....he has to say that to justify paying more than others.

The rest of the NFL considers him a 4th round pick...we just spent more because of need....something the Skins say they don't do.
Remember...they just pick the "best player available"....considering this was a draft of one....they got him.

I hope I am wrong about this and this guy ends up a starter, I am just on the fence whether we should gamble a 3rd rounder on this particular guy.
The rest of the NFL agrees with me.

[an23dy]

Originally Posted by ethat001

This is completely wrong, there IS a third round pick in 2010, and we just USED it to pick Jarmon. Geez, it's been said again and again in this thread. We DRAFTED A GUY IN THE THIRD ROUND NEXT YEAR.

This is the EXACT same thing as us drafting Jarmon next year. Imagine in the third round 2010 hearing "Redskins select Jarmon, Defensive End from Kentucky." That's EXACTLY what we just did.


We did NOT give up anything. To judge this, you merely have to ask -- was he worth the third round pick. From what we heard so far -- he probably is.

Direct quote from me at the end of my post that you just replied to, "it all comes down to whether you think the guy is worth a 3rd round pick."
I understand what's happening. There is nothing incorrect about my statement. In April 2010 we will not be making a pick in the 3rd round. It will say selection forfeited to draft Jeremy Jarmon in 2009 NFL supplemental draft.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by ethat001

This is completely wrong, there IS a third round pick in 2010, and we just USED it to pick Jarmon. Geez, it's been said again and again in this thread. We DRAFTED A GUY IN THE THIRD ROUND NEXT YEAR.

This is the EXACT same thing as us drafting Jarmon next year. Imagine in the third round 2010 hearing "Redskins select Jarmon, Defensive End from Kentucky." That's EXACTLY what we just did.


We did NOT give up anything. To judge this, you merely have to ask -- was he worth the third round pick. From what we heard so far -- he probably is.

Well, it's not exactly the same thing. Jarmon was not in the 2010 draft.

If Jarmon had entered the 2009 draft as a redshirt junior, under his own choice, would we still have traded up into the third round after the Barnes pick to get him? Or would we have rated him more highly on the board than Barnes?

Because there are a bunch of guys that were given second round grades at that point. Barnes had a second round game from this team. There was probably at least one defensive lineman who would have had a higher grade than Jarmon at the pick.

If he had been in the 2009 regular draft, we would have got a much better idea of his value than the fact that a bunch of teams were willing to take 4th round flyers on him. He probably would have been a 4th or a 5th round pick in last year's draft.

Anyway, there's a huge difference between having a second round grade from the Redskins, and having been a likely second round pick. Every pick on the second day is made by a team who thinks they got a steal.

Anyway, like I said earlier, if we acutally do get a second round pick out of Jarmon, then using a supplemental third on him is a huge steal. But that assessment that Vinny had is a little bit higher than anyone elses assessment. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

It's important to remember that while looking at all the teams that put a claim in the 4th round is one way to judge his value, that still leaves two unanswered questions: 1) how many of those teams were willing to overpay by a round to bolster their defense this year? and 2) why did no team who won more games than us last year think he was worth a third round claim, if in fact he was a potential second round prospect?

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by an23dy

So we traded our 1st in 2008, our 2nd in 2009, and our 3rd in 2010. Who are we getting for the 4th in 2011?

I am neutral about the pick, I like it just as much as I don't like it. I think it was a lot based on the pressure for Zorn and Vinny to get it done this year, which is what bothers me the most. I really want to know what other people offered. I know teams don't want to say what they did because then they can get judged for it, but I hope it somehow leaks out.

Gotta disagree there. Most of the stuff I've read has Jarmon's primary contributions beginning AFTER this season. Given the age of some of our DE's, I think this move is a lot more about the future than it is some win or go home situation in 2009.

[an23dy]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Gotta disagree there. Most of the stuff I've read has Jarmon's primary contributions beginning AFTER this season. Given the age of some of our DE's, I think this move is a lot more about the future than it is some win or go home situation in 2009.

True, good point. He probably won't play much. He missed all the off-season work also. And he's good insurance for a lot of the old DEs we have if they get injured.