Roethlisberger accused of Sexual Assault

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

In my opinion, it's pretty reckless to automatically conclude this woman is a lying, greedy [expletive]. Is there a chance she is lyign and just trying to get money and/or revenge? Yes. Is there a chance she is telling the truth? Yes.

I've known at least one woman who was sexually assaulted who went back and forth about contacting police. It was a very emotional experience for her and I understand why she didn't immediately go to police.

Again, I'm not saying she is telling the truth, I am just saying we shouldn't pass judgment based on an article or two we read in the press.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

In my opinion, it's pretty reckless to automatically conclude this woman is a lying, greedy [expletive]. Is there a chance she is lyign and just trying to get money and/or revenge? Yes. Is there a chance she is telling the truth? Yes.

I've known at least one woman who was sexually assaulted who went back and forth about contacting police. It was a very emotional experience for her and I understand why she didn't immediately go to police.

Again, I'm not saying she is telling the truth, I am just saying we shouldn't pass judgment based on an article or two we read in the press.

I can understand and respect that. But why is she filing a civil suit? Why isn't this dumb loser going to the cops? She just wants money.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I can understand and respect that. But why is she filing a civil suit? Why isn't this dumb loser going to the cops? She just wants money.

Whereas in criminal court the prosecution must prove guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, in civil trials you usually only have to prove your case by a preponderance of the evidence (i.e., the evidence weighs in your favor). So, a rape victim might very reasonably conclude that she does not want to go through an emotional trial if the prosecution is likely to lose, but she can hit him where it hurts (i.e., the wallet).

Again, I don't know her or her motivations. I just don't think people should automatically assume that a woman who claims to have been raped and sues is some greedy whore. Is that unreasonable?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Whereas in criminal court the prosecution must prove guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, in civil trials you usually only have to prove your case by a preponderance of the evidence (i.e., the evidence weighs in your favor). So, a rape victim might very reasonably conclude that she does not want to go through an emotional trial if the prosecution is likely to lose, but she can hit him where it hurts (i.e., the wallet).

Again, I don't know her or her motivations. I just don't think people should automatically assume that a woman who claims to have been raped and sues is some greedy whore. Is that unreasonable?

definitely agree with that

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

definitely agree with that

Just going with my gut, that's all. My gut tells me that Jeremy Mayfield is a tweeker too.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Whereas in criminal court the prosecution must prove guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, in civil trials you usually only have to prove your case by a preponderance of the evidence (i.e., the evidence weighs in your favor). So, a rape victim might very reasonably conclude that she does not want to go through an emotional trial if the prosecution is likely to lose, but she can hit him where it hurts (i.e., the wallet).

Again, I don't know her or her motivations. I just don't think people should automatically assume that a woman who claims to have been raped and sues is some greedy whore. Is that unreasonable?

What if this was just a regular Joe who makes 60k a year? She wouldn't file a civil suit. She would've went to the cops. That's why this is just so shady. A millionare rapes me, I wait a full year and then file a civil suit. I'm not buying it.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

What if this was just a regular Joe who makes 60k a year? She wouldn't file a civil suit. She would've went to the cops. That's why this is just so shady. A millionare rapes me, I wait a full year and then file a civil suit. I'm not buying it.

I'm not sure I agree. People file civil suits against "average Joes" for battery, sexual assault, etc., you just don't hear about it because they're "average Joes." Moreover, many of those suits are filed well after the incident giving rise to the suit took place. That's why in many jurisdictions, you have several years to bring this kind of suit. To say that anyone who files a civil suit against anyone making any kind of money 6 months or more after the incident took place is a liar, whore, con artist, etc. isn't really reasonable IMO.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I'm not sure I agree. People file civil suits against "average Joes" for battery, sexual assault, etc., you just don't hear about it because they're "average Joes." Moreover, many of those suits are filed well after the incident giving rise to the suit took place. That's why in many jurisdictions, you have several years to bring this kind of suit. To say that anyone who files a civil suit against anyone making any kind of money 6 months or more after the incident took place is a liar, whore, con artist, etc. isn't really reasonable IMO.

Well people lie all the time to get money out of wealthy people. It goes both ways. Could he have done it? Anything is possible. But some things are less possible. If a good looking guy that's very wealthy/famous and has hot girlfriends needs to rape an average looking girl that's a head case then that's something he has to live with. It comes down to her word against his.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Well people lie all the time to get money out of wealthy people. It goes both ways. Could he have done it? Anything is possible. But some things are less possible. If a good looking guy that's very wealthy/famous and has hot girlfriends needs to rape an average looking girl that's a head case then that's something he has to live with. It comes down to her word against his.

Wow, that was F'ing stupid.

[TheSmurfs22]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Well people lie all the time to get money out of wealthy people. It goes both ways. Could he have done it? Anything is possible. But some things are less possible. If a good looking guy that's very wealthy/famous and has hot girlfriends needs to rape an average looking girl that's a head case then that's something he has to live with. It comes down to her word against his.

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Rape is not about looks or wealth it is about power and control. Some people who become famous truly believe they are above the law.

[TheSmurfs22]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

In my opinion, it's pretty reckless to automatically conclude this woman is a lying, greedy [expletive]. Is there a chance she is lyign and just trying to get money and/or revenge? Yes. Is there a chance she is telling the truth? Yes.

I've known at least one woman who was sexually assaulted who went back and forth about contacting police. It was a very emotional experience for her and I understand why she didn't immediately go to police.

Again, I'm not saying she is telling the truth, I am just saying we shouldn't pass judgment based on an article or two we read in the press.

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I agree with you 100%. I have had a friend who was assaulted as well and it is not always an easy thing to admit. However there are some women out there who also do cry wolf in hopes to make a few bucks. It is a travesty that the actions of a few ruin it, or make it harder for those who are truly going through something like this.

I really hope this did not happen, I like Ben and think he is an upstanding guy.
Time will tell and the truth will be revealed.