Selfishness and Human Nature

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Now everyone in that program was ungratful????

You first said:

Our club use to do that Paint Your Heart Out thing where you go to someones home and fix up the out side but we dropped that because the last two times we did that the people seem so ungrateful it was almost depressing knowing how hard we worked to help them out.

That makes it sound like everyone else was fine and thankful. I am starting to think you are just a negative nancy for the sake of it. You are starting to move into Hess and SBF country to me.

Ok maybe I sould have worded it better but like I said the first time we did this the person was not even home. So I sound like a negative nancy because I don't care to help people who are ungrateful.Ok, then I'm a negative nancy.

I'm sure the program has helped alot of people that are very grateful for what is done but or experience was not very good.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Ok maybe I sould have worded it better but like I said the first time we did this the person was not even home. So I sound like a negative nancy because I don't care to help people who are ungrateful.Ok, then I'm a negative nancy.

No. You're selfish. Just like everyone else. Some of the value you get out of helping people is derived from their gratitude. You acquire a sense of importance to them from that. It makes you feel good. When they're not grateful, or just don't show it, then you are deprived that emotion and it becomes not worth it to you.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

No. You're selfish. Just like everyone else. Some of the value you get out of helping people is derived from their gratitude. You acquire a sense of importance to them from that. It makes you feel good. When they're not grateful, or just don't show it, then you are deprived that emotion and it becomes not worth it to you.

Damn!

Firstdown= Owned

Nice post FRPLG.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Damn!

Firstdown= Owned

Nice post FRPLG.

How was I owned as I agree with what he said 100%. I don't expect a thank you for everthing I do but when you gather 25 people together and spend a day helping someone a little thnak you is what someone who appreciates what you did for them says. When you knock on their door to say we are done and its like you are bothering them then yes it ticks me off.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by firstdown

How was I owned as I agree with what he said 100%. I don't expect a thank you for everthing I do but when you gather 25 people together and spend a day helping someone a little thnak you is what someone who appreciates what you did for them says. When you knock on their door to say we are done and its like you are bothering them then yes it ticks me off.

Dude, you just contradict yourself in your own post. First you say you don't need a thank you then you say you knock on their door and you get no "thank you" which ticks you off.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Dude, you just contradict yourself in your own post. First you say you don't need a thank you then you say you knock on their door and you get no "thank you" which ticks you off.

You need to learn how to read. I said

How was I owned as I agree with what he said 100%. I don't expect a thank you for everthing I do but when you gather 25 people together and spend a day helping someone a little thnak you is what someone who appreciates what you did for them says. When you knock on their door to say we are done and its like you are bothering them then yes it ticks me off.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by firstdown

You need to learn how to read. I said

How was I owned as I agree with what he said 100%. I don't expect a thank you for everthing I do but when you gather 25 people together and spend a day helping someone a little thnak you is what someone who appreciates what you did for them says. When you knock on their door to say we are done and its like you are bothering them then yes it ticks me off.

The point was you should not expect any thank you at all. Just know today in this thread you were owned.

[Zerohero]

Originally Posted by firstdown

How was I owned as I agree with what he said 100%. I don't expect a thank you for everthing I do but when you gather 25 people together and spend a day helping someone a little thnak you is what someone who appreciates what you did for them says. When you knock on their door to say we are done and its like you are bothering them then yes it ticks me off.

I can't even fathom the type of person who would act like this after a group a people painted their house for free. I mean WoW.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Zerohero

I can't even fathom the type of person who would act like this after a group a people painted their house for free. I mean WoW.

The scarry thing was while not as bad it also happend the year before. My unstanding of this programe was that you went to older peoples home who physically could not get out and maintain their home. We just went to the homes they gave us (not sure who who finds them) and did what was needed.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

No. You're selfish. Just like everyone else. Some of the value you get out of helping people is derived from their gratitude. You acquire a sense of importance to them from that. It makes you feel good. When they're not grateful, or just don't show it, then you are deprived that emotion and it becomes not worth it to you.

atleast the man is cognizant of the people and struggles around him and if being selfish motivates FD to try and help others than more power to him. id rather have 1 guy doing the right thing for the "wrong" reasons than a bunch of "unselfish" people talking about doing the right thing every sunday . . .

[BleedBurgundy]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

atleast the man is cognizant of the people and struggles around him and if being selfish motivates FD to try and help others than more power to him. id rather have 1 guy doing the right thing for the "wrong" reasons than a bunch of "unselfish" people talking about doing the right thing every sunday . . .

Surely you're not saying the "devout" can be hypocritical?

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

atleast the man is cognizant of the people and struggles around him and if being selfish motivates FD to try and help others than more power to him. id rather have 1 guy doing the right thing for the "wrong" reasons than a bunch of "unselfish" people talking about doing the right thing every sunday . . .

I dont disagree. I think the term selfish isn't correct as Joe has pointed out. Self-interested fits better and it isn't a bad thing to be self-interested. At least not in my opinion.