Vick conditionally reinstated by NFL (updated)

[SmootSmack]

I'd rather we trade for Tarvaris Jackson than sign Vick. I just don't see how he fits on this team. I only sign him if we can trade him (which we probably can't). And PFT comparing his indiscretions to Haynesworth's is ridiculous. People keep confusing the difference between Haynesworth's actions and Leonard Little's (though I agree he should have been banned for a significant amount of time) with Vick's as humans vs. animals. But that's not what it's about, what Vick did was premeditated. He didn't act out of sudden impulse like Haynesworth when he stomped Gurode.

[gibbsisgod]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I'd rather we trade for Tarvaris Jackson than sign Vick. I just don't see how he fits on this team. I only sign him if we can trade him (which we probably can't). And PFT comparing his indiscretions to Haynesworth's is ridiculous. People keep confusing the difference between Haynesworth's actions and Leonard Little's (though I agree he should have been banned for a significant amount of time) with Vick's as humans vs. animals. But that's not what it's about, what Vick did was premeditated. He didn't act out of sudden impulse like Haynesworth when he stomped Gurode.

And instead of taking responsibility right off the bat, He claimed he was innocent. He didn't fess up until he had no other option.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by gibbsisgod

And instead of taking responsibility right off the bat, He claimed he was innocent. He didn't fess up until he had no other option.

For me, this is a really difficult thing. With the legal system as it is, clearly up front he was stuck between a rock and a hard spot. It's not like he could come out while the investigation/trial was ongoing and be forthcoming. However, now that he has done his time, it will be interesting to see what level of remorse, or change in thoughts, he displays. And truthfully, it probably will be almost impossible for us seeing it only through the media spotlight to know, for good or bad. So, what it comes down to, is can he do his job, if he can, than good luck to him. It will be hard for him either way, because he will always be associated with the past actions, regardless of what happens going forward.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

What would it hurt to bring him and take a look? See where he is. We can always cut him by the beginning of the season and not have to pay him a penny. See if the guy can even still throw a football. I don't think we will, but it would be right by the team to do at least a little do diligence on him. Maybe bring him in for a workout. Do we really think JC is our guy? The FO doesn't. I don't know if Jason can play fast enough for the West Coast offense.

There could be alot of upside to Vick. Or he could have lost it after spending 18 months in a federal "pound you in the ass prison". Who knows. If he came here I'd deal with it and let the team decide if he can still play football.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

1) We don't know that they haven't contacted Vick's agent.

2) Does Vick really improve the quarterback situation in any of these places?

I mean, you have to weigh the positives (the talent) with the negatives (pretty much everything else). Picking up Vick for the reasons you describe would be the trademark of a bad organization.

Which is not to say that there aren't good situations for Michael Vick, just that, if you are the one of the first three teams on your list, you'd like to at least see what you have in Smith/Russell/Quinn first.

Some would say that a player or two of those have already busted, but to act like Vick is a better option, that's just being hypocritical. Don't replace your homegrown unproven talent with an external unproven talent that happens to be a felon.

Now if you are Pittsburgh, New England, or Carolina, be my guest. If you think you have a role for Vick, give him a shot. But don't take any of his crap trying to chase some mythical goal.

Vick isn't a better option for any of those teams right now. I'm not saying he should come in and start. But get him in there and let him sit and learn the offense for a year, let him run scout team and then let him compete the following year.

[MTK]

Once again, the Skins are saying no about Vick

Redskins Insider - Cerrato Says 'No' on Vick

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I'd rather we trade for Tarvaris Jackson than sign Vick. I just don't see how he fits on this team. I only sign him if we can trade him (which we probably can't). And PFT comparing his indiscretions to Haynesworth's is ridiculous. People keep confusing the difference between Haynesworth's actions and Leonard Little's (though I agree he should have been banned for a significant amount of time) with Vick's as humans vs. animals. But that's not what it's about, what Vick did was premeditated. He didn't act out of sudden impulse like Haynesworth when he stomped Gurode.

Well if you really want to talk about Haynesworth there is some more about his past that is not really good. He stopmped or tried to stomp on his own teammate in practice while playing for the Titans. He also got in a fight in college w/ a teammate and left and came back with a pole or a bat. So this guy has some serious anger issues. But hey we all do things we regret and when he slams Tony Romo in the ground are we going to be thinking about any of this? No. If we signed Vick I wouldn't care one way or another. God knows we need more players to help us score more points. But it's not going to happen here.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by gibbsisgod

And instead of taking responsibility right off the bat, He claimed he was innocent. He didn't fess up until he had no other option.

Oh please. Who cares. People lie all the time. Of course he was going to lie. Wouldn't you if you were in his position??? Roger G. forgave him.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Once again, the Skins are saying no about Vick

Redskins Insider - Cerrato Says 'No' on Vick

I don't get the feeling we will pick up Vick, but if you are going on Cerrato's record for everytime he said no ....we are screwed. Countless time he has said "No" in regards to the Skins having interest or picking up a player only to find out the team looked into, spoke with, or actually picked up after he said no.

Also, for those who keep saying he will not up grade certain teams...I believe you are wrong. I know he probably would love to be the starter but at this point in the yr most teams are if nothing else would be looking into having him as a back up role in case their #1 QB were to get injured. You can't tell me he's not better then most of the #2's on those teams. Heck I think MV is better then Collins athletically, but Collins knows the players, knows the play calls which in my book is a huge plus for Collins. If MV is brought in he has to learn the offense, play calls and maybe even learn how to throw according to some of you.

I think "if" the Skins brought him in it would have something to due with who is his agent? (hopefully not Rosenhause) and simply letting him get playing time so teams can see what he's got which seems like a big waist of time for the Skins considering we are still looking at Colt and want to see what Daniels offers. What playing time would he get and when would he get any chance to practice.....especially with the first team offense?

The only other reason would be cause DS has a hard on for him. Which also has happened in the past.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I don't get the feeling we will pick up Vick, but if you are going on Cerrato's record for everytime he said no ....we are screwed. Countless time he has said "No" in regards to the Skins having interest or picking up a player only to find out the team looked into, spoke with, or actually picked up after he said no.

Yeah I get that, but in this case I believe he's being honest. Vick doesn't make much sense here to begin with.

[BleedBurgundy]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

If his ability is anywhere on the map of where it was when he left, how would it hurt the team?

This guy is going to be a choir boy when he is signed.

I almost wish he would tell the first reporter, "Yes, I killed some dogs and I am sorry about that but there are people playing in this league who didn't miss a game after participating in the killing of human beings. Why don't you go harass them".

This whole thing is a farce.

You know, in a strange way, I would gain a bit of respect for him if he did that. It's a valid point and it would show some balls.

[SBXVII]

Oh man my computer screwed up again. Had this nice long written message and for what ever reason....computer froze. Failed to send. LoL. UUUHHHGGG.

Anyway this was a summary....ExtremeSkins has a blog about someone having seen MV in the Ashburn area.
PFT: Skins/Vick AND Tanner Cooley's twitter and FB: Mike Vick was in Ashburn today. - EXTREMESKINS.com

My only issue is MV is a native of southern Virginia not northern Virginia. He would have passed a ton of decent eating places in Norfolk (where he grew up) and Richmond, as well as simply eating in Fairfax off of 95. Why would he go out of his way? To simply make other teams think he was visiting the Skins so he can generate some interest? or did he meat with a team official?

Just trying to stir the pot.

[KLHJ2]

PFT...Not gonna click it and I'm not gonna say anything else.

[SBXVII]

The only good news is someone on page 19 says Adam Schefter says several teams do not want MV and the Skins were named. He will be a constant rumor until he gets signed elswhere. So I guess we shall see. At least our attention is being taken away from Favre. LOL.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

You know, in a strange way, I would gain a bit of respect for him if he did that. It's a valid point and it would show some balls.

Balls and major stupidity.

At that point he could really kiss his NFL career good-bye.