Vick conditionally reinstated by NFL (updated)

[JLee9718]

Vick needs to go to the Raiders...but he'll probably end up with the Redskins. I hope not, but my wishes aren't of any concern to Snyder.

[takethecake]

Personally, I'd like to see him go to the vikings now that the whole brett favre thing is dead... I think he's a better version of tarvaris jackson

[vallin21]

I just think there is too much to deal with if he signs with us. I honestly don't think he's changed that much, but he serverved his timed and should be fully reinstated. That said, if we did sign him it would tell me 3 things.

1) The FO doesn't think JC is a franchise QB.
2) Zorn has no influence in any personell discisions
3) They would be taking a huge PR risk, and it worries me that he's only 2-3 hours from his old neighborhood and could get influenced by the wrong people in DC.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

My thoughts on the matter:

1. I have not seen any evidence yet from Vick to make me think he's truly remorseful. Yes, he convinced the Commish to reinstate him, but if you believe that the interest and revenue Vick would bring to the NFL didn't factor heavily into the decision, then you're out of your mind.

2. That said, if Vick is truly a "changed man," it makes a lot of football sense to have him on the team:

A. Wildcat QB.
B. Familiar with the WCO.
C. Better #2 WCO QB than Todd Collins or Colt Brennan.
D. If Campbell sucks it up in 2009, we've got his replacement ready for 2010.
E. If Campbell is amazing in 2009, Vick's presence gives us significant negotiating leverage and flexibility in 2010 (i.e. we pay Jason less or can franchise and trade him to another team for a high value and already have a replacement on the roster.
F. We can sign him and then trade him to another WCO team if their QB goes down in the pre-season. (Teams timid about signing him now would be singing a different tune after observing his good behavior here)

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

My thoughts on the matter:

1. I have not seen any evidence yet from Vick to make me think he's truly remorseful. Yes, he convinced the Commish to reinstate him, but if you believe that the interest and revenue Vick would bring to the NFL didn't factor heavily into the decision, then you're out of your mind.

2. That said, if Vick is truly a "changed man," it makes a lot of football sense to have him on the team:

A. Wildcat QB.
B. Familiar with the WCO.
C. Better #2 WCO QB than Todd Collins or Colt Brennan.
D. If Campbell sucks it up in 2009, we've got his replacement ready for 2010.
E. If Campbell is amazing in 2009, Vick's presence gives us significant negotiating leverage and flexibility in 2010 (i.e. we pay Jason less or can franchise and trade him to another team for a high value and already have a replacement on the roster.
F. We can sign him and then trade him to another WCO team if their QB goes down in the pre-season. (Teams timid about signing him now would be singing a different tune after observing his good behavior here)

A. Doesn't apply to us or most NFL teams. The Ravens figured out how to shut it down last year so it's only a matter of time before all defenses figure it out. There's a reason why no NFL teams use an option system, it doesn't work against faster NFL defenders.

B. Not familiar with this system. I remember Atlanta being mainly a ground team with him, not a passing team...mainly because Vick made bad decisions and while had a strong arm, he was not an accurate passer. He's a great athlete, not a great or even a good QB. I said this BEFORE he did what he did with the dogs.

C. Collins...maybe you're right...Brennan could be a very solid backup or even replacement if he gains experience.

D. See Brennan notes in C.

E. Again, Vick was a mediocre QB and doesn't fit into our system.

F. Why would we do this? Wasted roster spot in speculation that another team loses their QBs and are one of the teams that would even consider him. Half of the league already declined in wanting him on their team.

So Vick is a huge NO. We do not need him. I do not want him.