Antonio Pierce facing gun charges(Burress incident)

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Now I have a lot of questions but here's my take of what you guys are trying to say....

PB purchased a gun legally in NY.
He lives in NJ.
Never registered it in NJ.
Carried firearm across state lines.
Fired his gun in a no shooting zone (probably) in a crouded bar.
Injured himself.

Actually I think he bought and registered it in Florida
Moved to NJ
Never registered it in NJ
Let the Florida registration expire
Carried it across State Lines into NY
Shot himself in the leg (literally and figuratively)
Tried to go to a hospital under an assumed name
Most likely doing time in NY under his real name.

He could have prevented it in several ways at several points along the way.

(note, not really passing judgement on any part except the shooting itself, since I think he should have been allowed to have the gun but if you shoot it off in a club, well thats just plain dumb.)

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Actually I think he bought and registered it in Florida
Moved to NJ
Never registered it in NJ
Let the Florida registration expire
Carried it across State Lines into NY
Shot himself in the leg (literally and figuratively)
Tried to go to a hospital under an assumed name
Most likely doing time in NY under his real name.

He could have prevented it in several ways at several points along the way.

(note, not really passing judgement on any part except the shooting itself, since I think he should have been allowed to have the gun but if you shoot it off in a club, well thats just plain dumb.)

Well said , nice post and to PB...................by-by!He's an ASS!

[Giantone]

As for AP the feeling is regardless of what the DA says,

1)After the gun went off ...saw to the welfare of his friend.
No crime.
2)picked up the gun,smart ...no but do you really want to leave a gun lying around a crowded bar?...not a crime.
3) took said friend to hospital...for medical attention,no crime

4) ......as soon as police asked about ..said gun turned it over and answerd every question. no crime


...............feeling is the DA is only squeezing AP to get Burress to testify.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Giantone

As for AP the feeling is regardless of what the DA says,

1)After the gun went off ...saw to the welfare of his friend.
No crime.
2)picked up the gun,smart ...no but do you really want to leave a gun lying around a crowded bar?...not a crime.
3) took said friend to hospital...for medical attention,no crime

4) ......as soon as police asked about ..said gun turned it over and answerd every question. no crime


...............feeling is the DA is only squeezing AP to get Burress to testify.

I somewhat agree with you. PB should have been loaded into an ambulance and taken to the hospital. AP should have stayed at the scene and spoke with the police and handed it over to them. Whichever came first.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Giantone

As for AP the feeling is regardless of what the DA says,

1)After the gun went off ...saw to the welfare of his friend.
No crime.
2)picked up the gun,smart ...no but do you really want to leave a gun lying around a crowded bar?...not a crime.
3) took said friend to hospital...for medical attention,no crime

4) ......as soon as police asked about ..said gun turned it over and answerd every question. no crime


...............feeling is the DA is only squeezing AP to get Burress to testify.

Not really sure, and I like AP so I hope he didn't, but
on #3, they went in under a concealed name - possible obstruction of justice or fraud

4) not sure of the law, but he was in possession of an unregistered gun, and it was not his, and it had been fired. At the least dumb possibly a crime. If someone tries to hand me a gun that i know was just fired in a crowded bar. Sorry think I gotta pass.

and 5) attempted to conceal the gun. Nice spin that as soon as he was asked. But it still was concealing evidence.
I hope AP doesn't get the hammer, and really that he takes a minor plea and lets PB deal with his own stupidity. But we will see.

[Gmanc711]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Not really sure, and I like AP so I hope he didn't, but
on #3, they went in under a concealed name - possible obstruction of justice or fraud

4) not sure of the law, but he was in possession of an unregistered gun, and it was not his, and it had been fired. At the least dumb possibly a crime. If someone tries to hand me a gun that i know was just fired in a crowded bar. Sorry think I gotta pass.

and 5) attempted to conceal the gun. Nice spin that as soon as he was asked. But it still was concealing evidence.
I hope AP doesn't get the hammer, and really that he takes a minor plea and lets PB deal with his own stupidity. But we will see.

Right. I mean if thats the case and they want to persue that against AP, than go ahead... but to try to charge him for picking up the gun with the same crime as Burress I think is just assnine.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Not really sure, and I like AP so I hope he didn't, but
on #3, they went in under a concealed name - possible obstruction of justice or fraud

4) not sure of the law, but he was in possession of an unregistered gun, and it was not his, and it had been fired. At the least dumb possibly a crime. If someone tries to hand me a gun that i know was just fired in a crowded bar. Sorry think I gotta pass.

and 5) attempted to conceal the gun. Nice spin that as soon as he was asked. But it still was concealing evidence.
I hope AP doesn't get the hammer, and really that he takes a minor plea and lets PB deal with his own stupidity. But we will see.

1) ...not they...Burress registerd under an assumed name
2) not his gun.........and the person who did own it was right there how is AP to know if it is or isn't?
3)...attemped nothing,they man didn't hide a thing.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Giantone

1) ...not they...Burress registerd under an assumed name
2) not his gun.........and the person who did own it was right there how is AP to know if it is or isn't?
3)...attemped nothing,they man didn't hide a thing.

I think your painting the best possible picture. I know that when it happened, the media I saw sure made AP sound like he had tried to hide the weapon, and took a while to be "forthcoming". I was, at the time, surprised charges had not been filed.

As to it not being his gun, if I hand you a gun - after having it go off in a crowded bar, and you don't give it to the cops immediately, I am pretty sure you are going to be looked at as an accessory after the fact, regardless of if it's registered or not. It's not quite the same thing as two guys at a hunting club saying, hey Joe can you take my rifle back to the club for for me.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I think your painting the best possible picture. I know that when it happened, the media I saw sure made AP sound like he had tried to hide the weapon, and took a while to be "forthcoming". I was, at the time, surprised charges had not been filed.

As to it not being his gun, if I hand you a gun - after having it go off in a crowded bar, and you don't give it to the cops immediately, I am pretty sure you are going to be looked at as an accessory after the fact, regardless of if it's registered or not. It's not quite the same thing as two guys at a hunting club saying, hey Joe can you take my rifle back to the club for for me.

Thank you. This is a hand gun, not a spit ball shooter.
An ambulance and the police should have been called immediately. Since when does a gun going off in a club and someone getting wounded not warrant a criminal investigation? Regardless if the gun was registered or not and the circumstances of this 'accidental shooting', the police should have been notified. The truth is the players were trying to cover it up to avoid trouble.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

Thank you. This is a hand gun, not a spit ball shooter.
An ambulance and the police should have been called immediately. Since when does a gun going off in a club and someone getting wounded not warrant a criminal investigation? Regardless if the gun was registered or not and the circumstances of this 'accidental shooting', the police should have been notified. The truth is the players were trying to cover it up to avoid trouble.

Very stupid what AP allegedly did...just as stupid as what Burress did. Well hopefully things work out for them.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Actually I think he bought and registered it in Florida
Moved to NJ
Never registered it in NJ
Let the Florida registration expire
Carried it across State Lines into NY
Shot himself in the leg (literally and figuratively)
Tried to go to a hospital under an assumed name
Most likely doing time in NY under his real name.

He could have prevented it in several ways at several points along the way.

(note, not really passing judgement on any part except the shooting itself, since I think he should have been allowed to have the gun but if you shoot it off in a club, well thats just plain dumb.)

Thank You. If he didn't renew it then it's unregistered. Then never registered it in NY or where ever he was living. Took his PPD(personal protective device.LOL) out to the club and fired it off (accidentally) putting other people at risk. I don't see how a resonable person defends that.

unlicensed
fired it off
injured someone(himself)

He would pay a price in any state. Not to mention he probably had concealed it with out a permit for that state (NY).