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Old 08-08-2009, 09:12 PM   #1
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Am I the only one who has a vibe that Marko Mitchell is a real sleeper? He really should make the team based on his camp, but probably will end up practice squad... but I just have this gut feeling that he has a better future ahead of him than Malcolm Kelly, maybe it's just me, but I'm putting it out there.

Oh, and I also feel that the combination of Mason & Aldridge could be as or more productive than Betts/Cartwright. I just feel like every Redskin quoted recently makes a comment about Aldridge's speed & cutting ability & Mason's natural football instincts/abilities.
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Old 08-08-2009, 09:56 PM   #2
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Am I the only one who has a vibe that Marko Mitchell is a real sleeper? He really should make the team based on his camp, but probably will end up practice squad... but I just have this gut feeling that he has a better future ahead of him than Malcolm Kelly, maybe it's just me, but I'm putting it out there.

Oh, and I also feel that the combination of Mason & Aldridge could be as or more productive than Betts/Cartwright. I just feel like every Redskin quoted recently makes a comment about Aldridge's speed & cutting ability & Mason's natural football instincts/abilities.
Again another 100% totally agree. But be careful with what your saying. LOL. Some on here would string you up for saying we would get better production out of Mason and Alridge. Honestly, I think it all depends on how quickly the front office and Zorn wants to get younger. My personall feelings ....I could let ARE go and fill his spot with Mitchell or Hackett. I could see Moss, Thomas, Kelly, Hackett (who is still young with only 5yrs in the league) and Eloi. Imagine Moss, Thomas, and Eloi on the field together. Which speed threat do teams cover?

and before anyone else says it....remember Mason was playing against the 2nd string defense. There, for all you Mason haters I put that out there for you. but I like what he brings to the table. He's young, fast, and always finds a hole for positive yards. It sounded like Rock had a difficult day today. I also like the fact they are looking at a speed back.

If I was DS (which obviously I'm not) I'd keep all the young WR's and keep Portis, Mason, and Alridge. The team would be younger, faster, and Portis and Moss could help coach up the young guys.
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Am I the only one who has a vibe that Marko Mitchell is a real sleeper? He really should make the team based on his camp, but probably will end up practice squad... but I just have this gut feeling that he has a better future ahead of him than Malcolm Kelly, maybe it's just me, but I'm putting it out there.

Oh, and I also feel that the combination of Mason & Aldridge could be as or more productive than Betts/Cartwright. I just feel like every Redskin quoted recently makes a comment about Aldridge's speed & cutting ability & Mason's natural football instincts/abilities.
Nope. I think he could turn out to be steal. Only time will tell.
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Am I the only one who has a vibe that Marko Mitchell is a real sleeper? He really should make the team based on his camp, but probably will end up practice squad... but I just have this gut feeling that he has a better future ahead of him than Malcolm Kelly, maybe it's just me, but I'm putting it out there.

Oh, and I also feel that the combination of Mason & Aldridge could be as or more productive than Betts/Cartwright. I just feel like every Redskin quoted recently makes a comment about Aldridge's speed & cutting ability & Mason's natural football instincts/abilities.

There is no way that Betts should be bumped for Mason. Betts pisses me off with his fumbling but he would start for several teams. Mason would not start for anyone.

I like the idea of Aldridge possibly making the team. I think we should have a scat back and I am all for anyone who would bump Randle-El off punt duty.
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There is no way that Betts should be bumped for Mason. Betts pisses me off with his fumbling but he would start for several teams. Mason would not start for anyone.

I like the idea of Aldridge possibly making the team. I think we should have a scat back and I am all for anyone who would bump Randle-El off punt duty.

Betts was a reach when he was drafted and he is a reach if you think he is an NFL starting RB. He is also the worst running back I have ever seen on the goal line. I would welcome cutting Betts.
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Betts was a reach when he was drafted and he is a reach if you think he is an NFL starting RB. He is also the worst running back I have ever seen on the goal line. I would welcome cutting Betts.

Lol. Whatever you say, dude.

The worst runningback you have ever seen on the goaline? Ever? Why because the Giants had 3 guys in the backfield on every play in '07 when we ran left? (I was screaming at the TV for a bootleg on 3rd down but I am not sure Gibbs ran a single one in version 2.0 even though Campbell is an above average scrambler). I don't even have to bring up another team to dispute that.... Ever seen Mike Sellers on the goaline?
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i'm jumping on the Justin Tryon bus early this season, I like the improvement. Bye Bye Westbrook.
100% totally agree. 3 yrs and he has done what? Sat on the practice squad. Time to let him go so someone who can be developed can stay.

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what is the opinion of those that have been watching the QB position at the camp?

It looks like Collins is going to be getting the short end of the playing time stick versus Colt.
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what is the opinion of those that have been watching the QB position at the camp?

It looks like Collins is going to be getting the short end of the playing time stick versus Colt.
Here's another one of my personal feelings. I like Collins but apparently the team does not think he's a viable #1. DS has issues with JC and goes outside the team to locate another QB instead of letting Collins take over to see if he can handle the team. He then explores drafting a QB which would learning from scratch instead of making Collins step up. I think the team is seeing him a simply an older vet to fill in if someone goes down.

I know he (Collins) was not planned to play today according to the team but when thrown in either he had a bad day or he simply was not ready cause to me it sounded like he struggled today. Until the end of practice. Brennen sounded to have had a pretty good day as well as Daniel. Perhaps it's time to get younger there also. Just saying.
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Here's another one of my personal feelings. I like Collins but apparently the team does not think he's a viable #1. DS has issues with JC and goes outside the team to locate another QB instead of letting Collins take over to see if he can handle the team. He then explores drafting a QB which would learning from scratch instead of making Collins step up. I think the team is seeing him a simply an older vet to fill in if someone goes down.

I know he (Collins) was not planned to play today according to the team but when thrown in either he had a bad day or he simply was not ready cause to me it sounded like he struggled today. Until the end of practice. Brennen sounded to have had a pretty good day as well as Daniel. Perhaps it's time to get younger there also. Just saying.
Ditto. I'm not one of those who think that JC will get a blank check this whole season. I predicted that Collins is in his last season here. IF Colt really burns it up in the pre-season he could easily move to #2 QB with a chance to play out the second half of the season if Campbell can't perform well. JC is on a short leash this fifth season, IMO.
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Here's another one of my personal feelings. I like Collins but apparently the team does not think he's a viable #1.
No team in the entire NFL and I mean no team believes he is a viable #1.

I really like Todd Collins if Al Saunders is calling the plays.

If Chase really makes an impression and Colt gets out of his training camp funk I have no problem going with Colt and Chase as the backups.

I have plenty of respect for Todd Collins.
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Here's another one of my personal feelings. I like Collins but apparently the team does not think he's a viable #1. DS has issues with JC and goes outside the team to locate another QB instead of letting Collins take over to see if he can handle the team. He then explores drafting a QB which would learning from scratch instead of making Collins step up. I think the team is seeing him a simply an older vet to fill in if someone goes down.

I know he (Collins) was not planned to play today according to the team but when thrown in either he had a bad day or he simply was not ready cause to me it sounded like he struggled today. Until the end of practice. Brennen sounded to have had a pretty good day as well as Daniel. Perhaps it's time to get younger there also. Just saying.
I don't think that you really want to put Collins in at number 1 at all unless you're going into playoff chances and Campbell gets hurt. While he hasn't had his body worn down from being a backup for so long, I think that at this point you're looking to see what your younger guys can bring to the table.. whether they can lead a team, whether to use them as trade bait, or whether to cut them.
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what is the opinion of those that have been watching the QB position at the camp?

It looks like Collins is going to be getting the short end of the playing time stick versus Colt.

10:07:09 am
Whether it is by design from coaches or instinctive reaction, QB Jason Campbell is checking down to RBs and TEs most of the time. Conversely, QB Colt Brennan likes to take more shots down field and the result is not always positive.

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Rookie QB Chase Daniel appears to be improving with each practice. His arm strength and accuracy are developing nicely.

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QB Todd Collins just threw his second TD of the scrimmage. The last was to WR Keith Eloi who did most of the work by breaking several tackles before diving in for the score.

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QB Jason Campbell is working with second and third string players and he looks average at best.

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There are some who are practice players and then there's rookie QB Chase Daniel. Daniel who has struggled the first week of camp led the second offense to a score against the Redskins first defense.


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QB Colt Brennan was unable to move the second offense. Brennan dropped the ball as he was preparing to throw deep.

couple small quips from cbs' camp updates
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Perhaps it's just me but I keep reading how Mason is not that good, or he wouldn't crack a squad, etc., etc., but I keep seeing Betts and Rock not doing as well playing against the same 2nd stringers....go figure.
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Old 08-09-2009, 12:16 AM   #15
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Betts is a good #2 RB, and filled in nicely when Portis went down, but keep in mind there was not a lot of teams knocking on his door to steal him away from the Skins when his contract came up. He wanted to test the open market and got no phone calls. My only concern is we have 3 RB's all around the same age and when one decides its time to hang up the cleats I'm betting the other two will be thinking the same thing only cause of age. The team needs to start looking for a Replacement for Portis who can be developed/groomed until Portis is ready to say goodbye. Someone young and talented like a Mason. I'm in no way saying he's ready to take over for Portis right now. but I'm sure he would do just as well a job as Betts did.
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