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[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

Too many people have this fetish with Marcus Mason just like too many think that Leigh Torrence is some great cornerback. That is why I compare them.

I will spell things out better for you next time. Sorry about that.

You didn't have to. I for one knew Torrence sucked. No different then I know Westbrook sucks. I think it says a lot about either our scouting personel or position coach's who think some one will eventually become a super star.

but I do like Mason. He atleast gets positive yrds compared to Rock. I would prefer Mason over Rock any day. Plus at this point we have several people who can do exactly what Rock does. Don't forget Betts did the KR job before Rock. Thomas WR did it in college, Hall can do it, and I belive we have used Moss in that capacity atleast once or twice. I think the team could live with out Rock. and just like you and Mason I'm am just as confused about the love fest for Rock.

As for my sister visiting you last night........whatever works for you dude.

[SBXVII]

Do you really think he is going to make the roster?


Personally ...he should. He's no worse then Betts and is a better RB then Rock who should be carrying the TTB name now. but to answer your question honestly, no he won't. For whatever reason people are afraid to shake things up. They would rather have 3 almost 30 y/o RB's instead of drafting, or signing a younger RB to groom to take over for Portis.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Do you really think he is going to make the roster?


Personally ...he should. He's no worse then Betts and is a better RB then Rock who should be carrying the TTB name now. but to answer your question honestly, no he won't. For whatever reason people are afraid to shake things up. They would rather have 3 almost 30 y/o RB's instead of drafting, or signing a younger RB to groom to take over for Portis.

See, I completely disagree that he is no worse than Betts. Mason racked up his pre-season production when the scrubs were on the field. You think Betts wouldn't look like Priest Holmes against the 3rd and 4th stringers?

If Mason was better than Ladell Betts or Even Rock Cartwright he would have made the roster last year. Mason is a liability in pass protection and is not ready to be counted on in prime time. If San Diego (or any other team for that matter) really wanted him they could have given him a real contract.

[wilsowilso]

What does Ladell Betts do really well?

Nothing. He is good at most things. I am tired of a good #2 RB.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

What does Ladell Betts do really well?

Nothing. He is good at most things. Get that guy outta here!

Uh Oh, prepare to take the wrath of the Betts lovers. People want the team to get younger at every position except RB cause mediocracy after Portis is exceptable. They fill in fine.

and for the record....I said I like Mason. but I also said the team needs to look at getting a younger RB no matter who it is. If Mason is not the man then so be it.

[wilsowilso]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Uh Oh, prepare to take the wrath of the Betts lovers.

What wrath can a Ladell Betts lover really bring?

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Uh Oh, prepare to take the wrath of the Betts lovers. People want the team to get younger at every position except RB cause mediocracy after Portis is exceptable. They fill in fine.

and for the record....I said I like Mason. but I also said the team needs to look at getting a younger RB no matter who it is. If Mason is not the man then so be it.

I doubt it. It's been beaten to death.

[GridIron26]

RT position seems to be becoming a possible pressing need.. All three RTs are injured I'm just glad that this is only beginning of the preseason, not season.. Although Zorn did said Heyer will be 100% by tomorrow (or next day?) and that Bridges's injury is just low ankle sprain.. Still, this makes me nervous..

[MTK]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

I doubt it. It's been beaten to death.

And there's really not much to talk about.

Betts is making the team, Mason is a longshot.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

What does Ladell Betts do really well?

Nothing. He is good at most things. I am tired of a good #2 RB.

He fumbles really well.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

What does Ladell Betts do really well?

Nothing. He is good at most things. I am tired of a good #2 RB.

Would you prefer to have a crappy one?

That could be arranged easy enough.

[SBXVII]

I find the hostility and negativism toward one player so interesting. Is it simply because he was not drafted? People comparing a 2-3 yrs player against 3 players with 7 yrs in the league. I guess everyone expected Mason with the limited playing time that a 4th RB could get would get to learn how to block in his first yr out of the gate in Gibbs system. Then changing to a WCO learn how and who to block all over again under a new system. I mean people have made excuses for Campbell...right. He's been in 4 or 5 different systems since his college days, He's having to learn a new offense every yr, He stuggles because of the O-line play. I guess these factors don't count for a young undrafted RB like Mason.

If I remember correctly Portis was having trouble not only in preseason but during the regular season with his blocking scheme. The team even kept Sellers back in order to help with the blocking in a couple of games and both missed on a few blocks leaving JC to get sacked, but no animosity for a 7 yr player for whiffing on a few blocks. I remember Zorn mentioning Portis would get the blocking down. Am I to presume that Mason being a 4th RB with limited practice time would do as good or better then those ahead of him? No he would not. I also love the ...."Mason got all his yards against camp scrubbs." Yes he might have but he had camp scrubbs blocking for him as well. Which means basically you guys also don't put a whole lot of faith in our first line O-line to be able to create a hole for him to run through because all I keep hearing is "Mason would not have done that with the first line offense."

I'll ask again, Where is all the animosity for the other players who sucked? Thomas only got in on a few plays and according to JC he couldn't trust DT cause he would run the wrong routes sometimes. Kelly was injured and sat out. Westbrook.....if anyone deserves the negativity on this team it should be him, what has he done in 3 yrs except sit on the practice squad taking up space? Rabach, could the team get anyone else who is under sized and got bowled over by teams utilizing the 3-4 defense? Rogers......as much as I'm rooting for him he seems to be another Springs, a CB who gets injured every yr and is only in half the season. Yet no animosity for Springs either. Heyer was an undrafted rookie the same yr where's the animosity towards him? He should have been camp fodder also. Unless he's completely worked on his run blocking over the summer he will suck at it and be one dimensional....pass blocker only.

Mason must be the person people either love him or love to hate him. and if the latter is the case I feel sorry for Colt. Oh, wait...he was drafted right.

[MTK]

It's got nothing to do with hostility, it's just the simple truth. He's a long shot and Betts is pretty much a lock, are you denying that?

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

It's got nothing to do with hostility, it's just the simple truth. He's a long shot and Betts is pretty much a lock, are you denying that?

No I'm not denying that. but is it difficult for people to say Mason is a good runner but won't make the team because of the RB's in front of him or is it easier to simply say Mason sucks. Mason can't block. Mason wouldn't do as well against a first line defense. Mason won't crack anyone elses team. etc. etc.

[SBXVII]

and....if the team had not brought in 2 smaller speedier scat back type RB's and simply brought in Mason alone I would say he has a chance. With all the players on the team who can KR/PR on the team I think Rock is expendable, but with the team looking for a change of pace back I see Rock getting replaced with one of them before he gets let go for a RB who would be doing the same thing as Betts and Portis.