Jason Campbell to be on SI cover next week

[12thMan]

Man, the curse of SI.

[BringBackJoeT]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Man, the curse of SI.

Yeah . . . but it's cool.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by BringBackJoeT

Yeah . . . but it's cool.

touche.

[Zerohero]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Man, the curse of SI.

i havent read SI in like 10 years, curse still strong?

[redskins1974]

Originally Posted by Zerohero

i havent read SI in like 10 years, curse still strong?

let me get this straight - we're afraid because he's on the cover that he will be cursed with below average play? as opposed to the great years he's had previously, and the losing won / loss record as a starter ?

yeah yeah i know he's been in different systems over the course of his career. interesting though how rookies like flacco and matt ryan lead their teams to the playoffs.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by redskins1974

let me get this straight - we're afraid because he's on the cover that he will be cursed with below average play? as opposed to the great years he's had previously, and the losing won / loss record as a starter ?

yeah yeah i know he's been in different systems over the course of his career. interesting though how rookies like flacco and matt ryan lead their teams to the playoffs.

JC on either of those teams probably would have done the same thing. Both Atlanta and Baltimore were stronger overall teams than the Skins were last year.

[Daseal]

Great picture. Is that the footwork Zorn has been working so hard on?

Exactly what I was thinking. At least get a picture of him looking like a QB!

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

JC on either of those teams probably would have done the same thing. Both Atlanta and Baltimore were stronger overall teams than the Skins were last year.

I would say MAtt Ryan had more to do with the Falcons getting in the playoffs then Flacco did with helping the Ravens get in the playoffs. Flacco rode the coat tails of the Ravens defense. Apperently the word around here is Flacco is having a bit of a rough training camp this year.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by redskins1974

let me get this straight - we're afraid because he's on the cover that he will be cursed with below average play? as opposed to the great years he's had previously, and the losing won / loss record as a starter ?

yeah yeah i know he's been in different systems over the course of his career. interesting though how rookies like flacco and matt ryan lead their teams to the playoffs.

Rather than jumping into another debate on how good JC is & how good he 'could be,' for simplicity's sake I think objectively we can say that he was at least average in 08. Avg. QBs can win w/the right team. There are tons of "average" nfl players making big contributions on winning teams.

IMO it's hard to say that JC wasn't at least "average" last year. Few TDs, but fewest INTs in the league. The record, 8-8 was average as well.

Following this logic, the team would suffer if he were "cursed with below average play." Now, the subject of curses is for someone else to discuss.

[Zerohero]

Originally Posted by redskins1974

let me get this straight - we're afraid because he's on the cover that he will be cursed with below average play? as opposed to the great years he's had previously, and the losing won / loss record as a starter ?

yeah yeah i know he's been in different systems over the course of his career. interesting though how rookies like flacco and matt ryan lead their teams to the playoffs.

I was just joking bout cover, i remember being little and whenever my team was on the cover they would lose or it seemed that way. Other posters seem to think JC could have done what these rookies did if he was in the right situation, well this is his year to prove that.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by redskins1974

let me get this straight - we're afraid because he's on the cover that he will be cursed with below average play? as opposed to the great years he's had previously, and the losing won / loss record as a starter ?

yeah yeah i know he's been in different systems over the course of his career. interesting though how rookies like flacco and matt ryan lead their teams to the playoffs.

Flacco was not asked to do a damn thing last year. And I think Baltimore's d-fense had a lot to do with them making the play offs.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

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Flacco was not asked to do a damn thing last year. And I think Baltimore's d-fense had a lot to do with them making the play offs.

Excellent point, and 100% correct. There's a huge difference between Matt Ryan -- the first rookie quarterback to make a significant impact in recent memory, and Joe Flacco, who could have been ANYONE last year.

Flacco might very well improve. But age of the prospect aside, if you are given one quarterback between Flacco and Campbell to win over the next five years, Campbell is the proven one.

Ryan is a different story. He's unproven from a experience standpoint, but he was legitimately great last year.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Excellent point, and 100% correct. There's a huge difference between Matt Ryan -- the first rookie quarterback to make a significant impact in recent memory, and Joe Flacco, who could have been ANYONE last year.

Flacco might very well improve. But age of the prospect aside, if you are given one quarterback between Flacco and Campbell to win over the next five years, Campbell is the proven one.

Ryan is a different story. He's unproven from a experience standpoint, but he was legitimately great last year.

I hate the Ravens with a passion, but Flacco was throwing bombs left and right at the end of last season, even when protection broke down. It seemed like every time he dropped back, the ball was going at least 20 yards downfield, and he didn't need receivers to be "open". He may prove me wrong, but I think he's legit, with or without Mason.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Man, the curse of SI.

Blah blah blah.


I loved when Doug Williams had the cover in '88.

Lots of Skins have had the cover and didn't become Ryan Leaf or OJ Simpson.

Dexter Manley's in '87 with a closeup of his face in helmet, with the words "GET OUTTA MY WAY!" was one of the best.

[Monkeydad]

Read the article at the barber shop yesterday while waiting for some picky metrosexual guy to get his sideburns adjusted "just right" for about 10 minutes. Good read.

Great to see players from my two favorite teams on the cover on consecutive weeks. Buehrle and Campbell.