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Old 08-06-2009, 11:23 AM   #1
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Re: Eli Manning's 6-Year, $97.5 Million Extension One of NFL's Biggest Deals

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Especially after choosing Rivers over Brees. My bet is, they extend during the season. And they should. More interesting things is, what if JC has a decent season. Do we sign during the season? Are the bridges burned? I think the JC watch as far as if he plays well and his future is an interesting scenario to unwrap.
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Old 08-06-2009, 11:31 AM   #2
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Especially after choosing Rivers over Brees. My bet is, they extend during the season. And they should. More interesting things is, what if JC has a decent season. Do we sign during the season? Are the bridges burned? I think the JC watch as far as if he plays well and his future is an interesting scenario to unwrap.
I think the front office tried to be bluntly honest with him. If what they all seem to say is to be believed they told him to prove he was going to be a franchise QB and they'll pay him. If he goes out and does that then they can make him a fair offer and he should be cool with it based on his personality. I think the FO actually got this right in philosophy. Perhaps their execution was a little ham-handed with all the pursuing other options talk but ultimately they knew they had to kick the tires on other options because JC hasn't shown anyone yet that he can lead us deep into the playoffs. A lot of it isn't his fault for sure but it is the simple fact that is hasn't happened.
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Old 08-06-2009, 12:00 PM   #3
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Especially after choosing Rivers over Brees. My bet is, they extend during the season. And they should. More interesting things is, what if JC has a decent season. Do we sign during the season? Are the bridges burned? I think the JC watch as far as if he plays well and his future is an interesting scenario to unwrap.
If JC is showing that he's gotten over the hump and is a QB we can hang our hat on for a while, I would hope Snyder would be smart to make an offer during the season instead of letting him hit the market.

I don't think the bridges have been burned completely, they were torched a bit, but I think winning will heal a lot of those wounds.

If things are going well for JC and Zorn, I don't see why JC would want to turn his back on that. I think JC would love to earn that big payday from Snyder and have the last laugh in all this.
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I guess you can't read very well, ghetto. I have already said the Super Bowl was a full team effort, and rambled off about 7 guys who could have also been the MVP. I have never in my life said, Eli won that game for the Giants.

Yes, they do have the best OLine, who do you think is better? As for the D, they only team that anyone with a brain can argue is better is Pittsburgh and the Giants beat them in Pittsburgh last year. Although the Steelers winning it all trumps that.
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I think it's great that you recognize Eli wasn't the cause for the win. Now I know you're not as crazy as I thought. Anyways, that was just a statement and nothing else really.

So, at first it was best D and O-line, and now it's just best O-line and maybe best D?

The Steelers, Ravens and Eagles were all better defenses last year, and the Cowboys have better talent, they just don't know how to use it.

As for the O-line, you're pretty good, but I think the Pats are better. And, maybe a couple other teams like the Saints and Cardinals. It's hard to argue the best of the best, and you're O-line is among them.

You're saying you have the best O-line and best D in the league, which basically means you have the best team in the league. C'mon dude, get real.
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Old 08-06-2009, 12:21 PM   #5
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My first thought on this= OVERPAID!
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Old 08-06-2009, 12:51 PM   #6
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I love the contract,now they are stuck with that bum.can't look for toomer running those crisp routs,and no more closing his eyes and throwing in plax direction.
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Old 08-06-2009, 01:14 PM   #7
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Look at these number don't know if they matter, cause numbers don't account for everything involved in football.

Career completion perecentage: aka "accuracy"


Eli Manning 55.9%
Jason Campbell 59.7%

just for laughs Mike Vick 53.8%
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Look at these number don't know if they matter, cause numbers don't account for everything involved in football.

Career completion perecentage: aka "accuracy"


Eli Manning 55.9%
Jason Campbell 59.7%

just for laughs Mike Vick 53.8%
Shane Matthews 58.6%
Mark Brunell 59.6%

What now, son?!!!
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Eli has the worst completion percentage in the NFC East.
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Eli has the worst completion percentage in the NFC East.
But he's got the only ring.
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But he's got the only ring.
I'm tired of this argument. He didn't win them the SB himself. They won in spite of him. A good QB goes a long way towards winning SBs (emphasis on the s). One SB win does not a great QB make. If he leads his team to a SB this year (LEADS) then I'll be convinced. Otherwise I've spent however many years watching him be average with flashes of good.
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I'm tired of this argument. He didn't win them the SB himself. They won in spite of him. A good QB goes a long way towards winning SBs (emphasis on the s). One SB win does not a great QB make. If he leads his team to a SB this year (LEADS) then I'll be convinced. Otherwise I've spent however many years watching him be average with flashes of good.
You may be tired of it but tell me it's not a HUGE reason why he received the contract that he did.

At the end of the day when people want to keep tossing out these stats about how bad he is, the one thing that trumps all is that ring.

Saying they won in spite of him just rings of "hater" to me. Of course he didn't win it all by himself, but he played a big role down the stretch in the playoffs and SB.
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You may be tired of it but tell me it's not a HUGE reason why he received the contract that he did.

At the end of the day when people want to keep tossing out these stats about how bad he is, the one thing that trumps all is that ring.

Saying they won in spite of him just rings of "hater" to me. Of course he didn't win it all by himself, but he played a big role down the stretch in the playoffs and SB.
True true true.

I am not an Eli fan and I like to trot out his poor stats as much as anyone. But the point of the stats is to win and Eli has shown he can do that. The question every qb faces is, "Can he win a Super Bowl?" and Eli has already answered that in the affirmative. No one else in the division knows that about their qb.

Let me put this differently - the G-men know that Eli is not a world beater but they also know that, with him under center, they have a chance to win it all. Armed with this knowledge, they would have been quite foolish not to pay Eli and start all over again at qb from scratch.
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You may be tired of it but tell me it's not a HUGE reason why he received the contract that he did.

At the end of the day when people want to keep tossing out these stats about how bad he is, the one thing that trumps all is that ring.

Saying they won in spite of him just rings of "hater" to me. Of course he didn't win it all by himself, but he played a big role down the stretch in the playoffs and SB.
That ring isn't HIS ring. Their team won it. I agree it is a reason he got the contract. It isn't a good reason. Or even close to a good reason. They're rewarding him for be able to not lose the SB for them. Not for helping them win it in my opinion.

I'll go this far...absent their continued luck in putting together the best DL in the league they'll never win a SB with Eli at QB again.
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