Eli Manning's 6-Year, $97.5 Million Extension One of NFL's Biggest Deals

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

I don't think that Eli's contract is that ridiculous. He is a proven clutch QB. Now if you want to look at idiotic contracts I would discuss Nate Clements, Asomugha or Stafford's deal before I would focus on Eli's.

I think that Eli owes a lot of this deal to Burress and a great offensive line but I don't think that the Giants made a terrible move by locking him up. In a few years this contract probably won't look so out of line.

I'm not buying the clutch argument. I've said it before- he had a great stretch run in 2007 that carried on into the playoffs, and he won the big one. He was also part of possibly the greatest play in Super Bowl history. I'm not trying to diminish any of that.

But if Eli's career thus far has shown us anything, it's that that phenomenal stretch in late 2007 was more an anomaly than the norm. His career passer rating is very middle of the road, and he's thrown 74 INTs in just 4 full seasons as a starter. Not to mention his yardage total last year was nearly identical to Campbell's. How clutch was he down the stretch last year? He was playing behind the best line in football with THREE very good RB's, and he still couldn't manage to throw a TD to a WR in the last 4 games. Their offense faltered, and it culminated with a downright ugly performance in a 1st round playoff loss.

He's a good QB, don't get me wrong. But he's not great, and he sure as hell doesn't deserve to be the highest paid QB in the league. Not even close really.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I'm not buying the clutch argument. I've said it before- he had a great stretch run in 2007 that carried on into the playoffs, and he won the big one. He was also part of possibly the greatest play in Super Bowl history. I'm not trying to diminish any of that.

But if Eli's career thus far has shown us anything, it's that that phenomenal stretch in late 2007 was more an anomaly than the norm. His career passer rating is very middle of the road, and he's thrown 74 INTs in just 4 full seasons as a starter. Not to mention his yardage total last year was nearly identical to Campbell's. How clutch was he down the stretch last year? He was playing behind the best line in football with THREE very good RB's, and he still couldn't manage to throw a TD to a WR in the last 4 games. Their offense faltered, and it culminated with a downright ugly performance in a 1st round playoff loss.

He's a good QB, don't get me wrong. But he's not great, and he sure as hell doesn't deserve to be the highest paid QB in the league. Not even close really.

I think this tells it pretty straight.

[Giantone]

Eli got the going market rate for winning super bowl QB's.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Eli got the going market rate for winning super bowl QB's.

Such as Trent Dilfer's walking papers, and Brad Johnson's mythical contract extension.

Oh, you meant Brady/Peyton/Roethlisberger. Well, there's a fun game of "which one of these isn't like the others."

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Such as Trent Dilfer's walking papers, and Brad Johnson's mythical contract extension.

Oh, you meant Brady/Peyton/Roethlisberger. Well, there's a fun game of "which one of these isn't like the others."

Thank you. The SB is so thin.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Thank you. The SB is so thin.

Seems though that to some, the losses are far more often his fault and the wins are somebody else's credit. Can't really have it both ways. So if Rivers gets the same money,then what should Campbell get?

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I'm not buying the clutch argument. I've said it before- he had a great stretch run in 2007 that carried on into the playoffs, and he won the big one. He was also part of possibly the greatest play in Super Bowl history. I'm not trying to diminish any of that.

But if Eli's career thus far has shown us anything, it's that that phenomenal stretch in late 2007 was more an anomaly than the norm. His career passer rating is very middle of the road, and he's thrown 74 INTs in just 4 full seasons as a starter. Not to mention his yardage total last year was nearly identical to Campbell's. How clutch was he down the stretch last year? He was playing behind the best line in football with THREE very good RB's, and he still couldn't manage to throw a TD to a WR in the last 4 games. Their offense faltered, and it culminated with a downright ugly performance in a 1st round playoff loss.

He's a good QB, don't get me wrong. But he's not great, and he sure as hell doesn't deserve to be the highest paid QB in the league. Not even close really.

The greatest play in SB History was 70 Chip. It has just been overshadowed by the ballerina escape and circus catch which were more recently executed.

You cannot tell me that a play that goes for a touchdown is less spectacular than a play merely set up one.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Angry

The greatest play in SB History was 70 Chip. It has just been overshadowed by the ballerina escape and circus catch which were more recently executed.

You cannot tell me that a play that goes for a touchdown is less spectacular than a play merely set up one.

My daily Redskins desk calendar today actually says that is the greatest play in SB history. Serious.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Angry

The greatest play in SB History was 70 Chip. It has just been overshadowed by the ballerina escape and circus catch which were more recently executed.

You cannot tell me that a play that goes for a touchdown is less spectacular than a play merely set up one.

You're right. It is. I said Eli's play was "possibly" the greatest. I guess it's debatable (not amongst Skins fans though).

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by GMScud

You're right. It is. I said Eli's play was "possibly" the greatest. I guess it's debatable (not amongst Skins fans though).

Now that we have gotten that cleared up. Who cares what Eli got? It's more money against their cap number. I wish that they would have given him even more now that I think about it.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Angry

Now that we have gotten that cleared up. Who cares what Eli got? It's more money against their cap number. I wish that they would have given him even more now that I think about it.

Oh no doubt. I'm glad they're overpaying him. He's just not worth it, that's all.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Oh no doubt. I'm glad they're overpaying him. He's just not worth it, that's all.

LOL........I was thinking the same thing when you guys signed Haynsworth.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Giantone

LOL........I was thinking the same thing when you guys signed Haynsworth.

Yea but when our 100 million dollar man takes out your 97.5 million dollar man it will have been worth every pennny.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Giantone

LOL........I was thinking the same thing when you guys signed Haynsworth.

At least Haynesworth is without question the best player in the league at his position. Can't say that about Eli. Not even close really.