Om Field: Review - Six Campbell Pass Plays

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

On this play, Devin Thomas was streaking down the far sideline in single coverage. IMO, Campbell needs to find these match-ups more often instead of settling for the safe 5-10 yard pass. Campbell could and should have aired it out to Thomas, at least giving him a chance to make a big play. None of the Ravens safeties were even in the vicinity of DT. It could have even gone for a score, but we'll never know. Campbell, not solid.

Because the 15% chance at the 40-yd completion is obviously more valuable than the actual 13 yard completion on first down. Epic fail.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Because the 15% chance at the 40-yd completion is obviously more valuable than the actual 13 yard completion on first down. Epic fail.

If they can only complete a pass in single coverage 15% of the time, they're in trouble. It's a pretty routine play for a lot of teams. A completion or a pass interference call on a 20-40 yard pass attempt is a better outcome than a pass in the dirt to a WR who has 4 defenders around him. If not in a meaningless pre-season game, when?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

If they can only complete a pass in single coverage 15% of the time, they're in trouble. It's a pretty routine play for a lot of teams. A completion or a pass interference call on a 20-40 yard pass attempt is a better outcome than a pass in the dirt to a WR who has 4 defenders around him. If not in a meaningless pre-season game, when?

Never. That's when.

Devin Thomas in single coverage is not a mismatch right now. It may never be a mismatch. I agree that you want to go vertical with a guy who isn't Moss every now and then, and probably at a 2:1 ratio (Moss to everyone else), but going deep for the sake of going deep is how offenses turn the ball over and get into second and ten situations.

There certainly will be shots taken this year, after a 13 yard completion is probably not the best time to complain.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Never. That's when.

Devin Thomas in single coverage is not a mismatch right now. It may never be a mismatch. I agree that you want to go vertical with a guy who isn't Moss every now and then, and probably at a 2:1 ratio (Moss to everyone else), but going deep for the sake of going deep is how offenses turn the ball over and get into second and ten situations.

There certainly will be shots taken this year, after a 13 yard completion is probably not the best time to complain.

That's not why he didn't throw it. He didn't throw it, because he didn't see it. If we have wide outs that aren't going to get the ball thrown to them when they're in single coverage, because they can't be trusted, then why have them on the roster at all. I don't agree that Campbell was "solid" on that play, just because he completed the pass. Even the worst defenses in the league last year held our offense in check. It would be nice to see a little more aggressiveness from Campbell. Maybe we will in the regular season, but his play on Thursday was uninspiring. Troy Smith looked better.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

That's not why he didn't throw it. He didn't throw it, because he didn't see it. If we have wide outs that aren't going to get the ball thrown to them when they're in single coverage, because they can't be trusted, then why have them on the roster at all. I don't agree that Campbell was "solid" on that play, just because he completed the pass. Even the worst defenses in the league last year held our offense in check. It would be nice to see a little more aggressiveness from Campbell. Maybe we will in the regular season, but his play on Thursday was uninspiring. Troy Smith looked better.

Well, now you are just positioning yourself as an authority on NFL offenses. So tell me, was DT running a go route, or was he running a clearout? Seems to me, if he's running a route that's in the progression, then Campbell has a chance to see him, if he's not in the progression, then he doesn't.

Also, as noted before, the play you are talking about was a pass we completed for 13 yards. The "if not now, then when" argument is stupid. How about, any other time? At the very least, stick to plays where the number one read wasn't open. Otherwise, it's just being pissy. You're arguing that the quarterback was not "solid" on a simple well executed play action pass that netted 13 yards and a first down. This ain't Madden, brotha.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

If they can only complete a pass in single coverage 15% of the time, they're in trouble. It's a pretty routine play for a lot of teams. A completion or a pass interference call on a 20-40 yard pass attempt is a better outcome than a pass in the dirt to a WR who has 4 defenders around him. If not in a meaningless pre-season game, when?

A 40 yard pass is never routine. It is never a given. Besides, ARE was JC's first read. It is hard to criticize players for connecting for a first down on the first read. If you want to criticize Zorn for the play's design, that would be more appropriate.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

If they can only complete a pass in single coverage 15% of the time, they're in trouble. It's a pretty routine play for a lot of teams. A completion or a pass interference call on a 20-40 yard pass attempt is a better outcome than a pass in the dirt to a WR who has 4 defenders around him. If not in a meaningless pre-season game, when?

You can tell that to McNabb and his 2-for-24 completion-to-attempt ratio for passes over 31 yards last year.